Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 06:39:35 -0400 From: cs <cbsnospam.net> Subject: Re: Wheel Nuts
The source for both sets of my locking lugs has been Saab, first set in '88, 2nd set ~'95. Obviously, they failed on removal, as my post indicated, they had to be drilled out. 85lbs. is dead center spec on the 9k (factory service manual specifies a range from 77 to 92 foot lbs.). There would be brief periods when proper torque would exist: i.e., practically whenever my regular tech at the dealer didn't service my car, or when the car was at a tire vendor's shop, and I would forget to actually hand an idiot there the torque wrench I keep in my car for the very purpose of tightening the wheel lugs. My rule of thumb? If I don't positively know my wheels have been properly torqued down, I will be re-torquing them ASAP. My primary purpose for this is to prevent warping of rotors, secondary purpose is to keep the wheels from being damaged. "Anti-seize"? I've never used any product so labeled, except on spark plugs; however, I do slather lug nut threads with plain axle grease. Again, the Saab locking lugs are complete, unadulterated shit. Oh, the steel is good - just try to drill one out - but the design is quite lacking, and prone to fail. Instead of an 1/8" recessed pattern, it should be a 1/4" or more. Some of you might not care if these units won't last more than 5 or 6 years, as you'll be dumping your cars before then. But if you are planning on keeping your car, don't buy the Saab locking nuts. Frankly, when somebody wants to charge me $21.50 per lug nut, I expect more. On 27 Aug 2004 17:22:15 GMT, Dave Hinz <DaveHinznospamcop.net> wrote: >On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:34:24 -0400, cs <cbsnospam.net> wrote: >> Do yourself a favor, and don't buy them, unless some stouter >> configuration is offered by someone else - I've had two sets, and >> they're shit. The first ones had a small pin, say about 3/16" >> diameter. After several years, the pins seemed to pull out of the >> tool. > >Never saw that type, I had: > >> The second set had this 1/8" recessed cloverleaf sort of >> pattern. A better design than the pins, but still complete shit. > >How do you define "complete shit" as it applies here please? How much >torque were you applying to these that they failed? If you're seeing >problems that others aren't, with two different types of locking lugbolt >assemblies from a quality source, chances are someone's doing something >wrong and it's not the people designing the item. > >> I >> wound up having to drill two of them out over time, and the third was >> so difficult, I had to take it to the dealer for removal (and in case >> you're wondering I always use a torque wrench on my wheels, tightening >> them to no more than 85lbs.) > >Is that the spec? Did you use any sort of anti-seize on them? Did it >fail on installation or removal? Something doesn't add up here, is all >I'm saying. > >
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