Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 02:57:11 +0000
From: Pooh Bear <>
Subject: Re: Better than Haynes manual?

James Sweet wrote: > "Grunff" <> wrote in message > > > Pooh Bear wrote: > > > > > Almost *anything* would be better than Haynes ! > > > > They aren't great, but I think most people would agree that a Haynes is > > far, far better than no manual at all. > > The Haynes manual sure beats the Chiltons crap, at least for Volvo and a few > Fords where I've had access to both manuals. Can't say I've come across Chiltons. In my early motoring days when I *had* to do much repair / maintenance myself there were a few publishers of manuals. Without fail, *all* I came across were more informative, better organised and had better illustrations than any Haynes. I especially * hate* Haynes for their gloomy 'shades of black' pics that rarely actually appear to picture whatever the text is talking about, are efffectively unusable and never seem to appear on the same page as the text either. I think they've lost it. 30 yrs ago I *did* rebuild engines. Who's going to do that now ? You get a recon or salvage unit. They should concentrate on the annoying little things that go wrong that you don't want to pay loads to get someone else to fix. For example, I had a problem concerning the removal of the radiator on my 9000. Haynes helpfully said in about one sentence something to the effect of ' fitment varies according to specification and engine size - work it out for yourself '. Thanks a lot. Graham

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