Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:51:44 -0500
From: "The Malt Hound" <> wrote in message 
>> Seriously, a 92 SAAB 900C is one of the more reliable cars in the world.
> Agreed
>> Since I don't prescribe to the belief that there is any such thing as a
>> "lemon" (there are only lemon owners) there must be some sort of
>> explaination to you experience, eh?
> That on the other hand I would argue against, there's certainly many more
> "lemon owners" than true lemons, but it certainly occurs that a car comes
> off the line with one or more very difficult to track down defects, a 
> sharp
> mechanic can often fix it but if the dealer is not able to repair the
> problem after multiple attempts on a fairly new car then it's by 
> definition
> a lemon. Doesn't mean it's cursed and can never be fixed, just that it's
> new, broken, and those who should have fixed it can't. This doesn't 
> however
> apply to used cars.

It's not just "lemon owners" IMO.  I believe that a much bigger factor is 
"lemon dealerships."  IME with dissatisfied owners that feel they have a 
"lemon" car, they usually continue to bring the car to the same crappy 
dealership for their warranty / repair work.  The dealership fails to fix 
the car, or causes some other subsequent problems as a byproduct of the 
troubleshooting / repair process.

I think that a car being "a lemon" stems from the same philosophy that makes 
some people believe that their cars have personalities.  From a purely 
logical standpoint, neither situation is rationally possible.

-Fred W

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