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Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 00:15:41 -0400
From: ma_twain <>
Subject: Re: Any Saab employees here?

th wrote: > Tex wrote: > >> "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Houndnospamm*> wrote in message >> >> >>> Au contrair, mon amie Tex. All of my cars are older and are highly >>> reliable. I perform an archaic ritual to keep them running with very >> >> >> >> Ha! I have to admit, I'm intringued by your "archaic ritual". Please >> describe. >> >> >>> few breakdowns. It's called "Preventive Maintenance", a relic of a >>> concept from days gone by. >> >> >> >> Don't be tell this humble fool the secret recipe for >> "preventive maintenance" >> >> >>> Compare that to many folks I know who are in and out of their >>> high-buck service department at the stealership with infantile >>> failures and other regular repairs. >> >> >> >> What's easy for one is not so easy (nor perhaps feasible) for another. >> Smart people tend to forget this. IOW, what is easy and simple for >> you, may not be so for another. So shelling out cash to the mechanic >> is a fairly easy fix compared with attempting to learn about the >> technical aspects of cars. As for me, I wouldn't mind learning and >> working on my own car, but I 1) lack adequate time and 2) currently >> live in a development where I'm not permitted to work on my car. >> >> >>> Age and mileage does not equate to poor reliability. The original >>> design has a lot more to do with reliability. >> >> >> >> Neither the statistics, nor the known issues, nor the anecdotal >> comments I've seen in this group bear this out. I've seen estimates >> here in this group that the cost of upkeep on an older Saab (say a '93 >> 900) runs beween $900-$2000 USD/annum. > > > That is quite exaggerated, the figures more look like the annual > service/repair costs for a 9-5. All of my older Saabs (99, C900, 9000) > have easily be maintained below 500 USD per year (excl. tires) in > average and they have been at ages up to 15 years and mileages up to > 230000 km. > What Tex also forgets that even if a '93 900 costs $900 a year to maintain, what is the total cost to drive a year? Let's see, if I buy a 2005 9-3 Arc, it would cost me $759 a month (5 year loan on $40k cost), just to buy it, no maintenance cost included. Is $900 a YEAR('93 900) more expensive than $759 a MONTH (assuming $0 for maintenance)? Plus, if I sell it in at 3 years, after paying roughly $27,000 (no maintenance cost included), I will get $15,000 (based on Dealer retail of a 2002 top of the line 9-3 in absolute mint condition, which would be far from the truth if I did no maintenance for 3 years). But wait, the original loan cost including interest is $45,000, so I still owe at least another $3,000. Again, assuming no maintenance, the cost for driving a 9-3 is $30,000 for three years. Is this really better than a '93 900 at $1,800 for three years? Don't forget, I would have paid off the '93 in 1997.

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