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Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:10:05 GMT
From: "Dexter J" <lamealameadingdongnospamlamelame.org>
Subject: Re: I'm thinking of rejoining the fold....


Salutations: Sorry for the top-post - but I can save some 'ctrl snipping time if I do. I managed to cut off my right thumb-pad last weekend working on the motorhome and the ctrl key makes the stitches hurt when I type. The TCS system was I think dropped in 1995 - so after that, you can avoid it if you don't want it. I only mention it in defence given severe local conditions here, where it has proved useful and effective. Knowing you to be a fellow 'utility classic' enthusiast like myself, I think you will be able to work out most of the basic electrical gremlins as they come up with a little help from saabnet and Google. Interestingly, most of the problems are at the sensors or solenoids rather than the computer units in the 9000. But, a lot of mechanics give up in despair given that it almost always appears to be a computer problem rather than a sender and for the most part - what error codes as are available - are wrong. On the upside, there is a *wealth* of info regarding device resistances which has saved me considerable expense with my month 3 1993 Aero so far. As the Celica, really nice car - but I'm afraid I just can't get in and out of it in any comfortably dignified manner anymore. So, essentially, I can't comment on your call there. As to the ebay link - the seller is correct, the damage is bolt on and assuming it closes in the sub 2,500 quid mark - you have a *very* workable and desirable platform upon which to proceed. The SAAB 9000 Aero is, in my opinion at least, the bespoke Savile row suit of automobilia. It really is a timelessly classic design, covering an amazingly comfortable and functional engineering package. If I have any compaint at all - it is the lack of double A-Arms in the front. The model listed is a good year for Aero's - it appears to have *all* the amenities including a mundo swank arm rest and factory child booster and while I still prefer the Black on Black examples, the forest green and grey is still fetching. I would think that the impact very probably took a few years off the control arm bushings and engine mounts and may have well have knocked the alignment out a bit. But given competent repair work, it is very easily repairable as described. Basically, while it may look like a big hit - I can tell you from practical experience with my 1989 that the minimal crumple pictured was very probably gained at sub 8mph and would have not disturbed most, if any, of the important structure of the car. If it didn't need new glass - everything is peachy. This is very unlike the C900 where a front end hit like that would usually bugger the A-Pillars or clip at the firewall given the thicker and harder metal in play where the hood and/or the bumper latched in. If I didn't already have the Aero I always wanted and didn't drive on the wrong side of the road - you would be bidding against me at this juncture actually. I would be in touch with the seller and see if you can get a quick listen to the machine in person - if it checked out - I'd go as deep at 3,000 quid on that example. As to automatics, the great problem isn't the drivability of the autobox - in fact - it is an exceptional automatic as compared to most on the road. However, they are so hugely expensive to repair when they wear out and relatively hard to come by in good used or reliably rebuild condition - that many 9000's simply are written off when the automatic punches out. Personally - I just think the 9000 is a lot more fun with a 5 speed at the end of the day. Good luck brother Carl. -- Radio Free Dexterdyne Top Tune o'be-do-da-day Glen Frey - All She Wants to Do Is Dance http://www.dexterdyne.org/888/045.RAM all tunes - no cookies no subscription no weather no ads no news no phone in - RealAudio 8+ Required - all the Time On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 20:53:53 +0100, Sleeker GT Phwoar <carl.robsonnospamcing-czechs.com> wrote: > > In article <opsth76xjengtaownospam.eastlink.ca>, > lamealameadingdongnospamlamelame.org says... >> There is a lot of feeling against the TCS system. Personally, given the >> snow and ice conditions here and it's primary use as a family ride - I >> like it on the 5 speed. Saves tires if nothing else and it comes with a >> dash off switch that can be added if not already in place. > > that is my biggest concern about a 9k, the expensive nature of a fly by > wire throttle and the TCS or ABS failing. > >> The early Aero at 225hp is *everything* they are reputed to be - the >> seats >> are even better than stock and it will pull harder than anything you've >> ever driven from Trollhatten. That said - they have usually been run >> harder than average models and everything that means. > > True, very true. > >> Stating the obvious - don't buy on the model - buy on the car itself. >> This >> is more true of the 9000 than the C900 because of the electronics >> involved. > > Thanks. Yes, I know, I may need to wait a little while before I do even > start looking, but I think I'm set to spend a little time on it this > time too. No rushing. I'm not setting myself on a particular spec so if > the right car comes up, I won't discount it immediatley based on model. > > I know Saabs drive better on manual gearbox, but does the 9000 autobox > take much out of the experience, it is just that auto 9000's are > actually selling at roughly 50% of the price of manuals, and I've never > driven an auto. > > Now might be a good time to sell the Celica as it still has 12 months > MOT, and I' taking it in to get the brake flexis replaced as the old > ones are definatley showing signs of cracking (don't know how the MOT > man missed it, both me and my mechanic both spotted it, and reckoned it > would be at least an advisory note). While I'm driving it, it is going > to be safe, an for as long as possible, in full working order. I don't > neglect a car just because I plan to sell it. If I spotted it, and it > might be important, then so might a buyer. it might put them off, it > might reduce the price, and worse, they might not see it, they might buy > it, and something might fail that I knew could do with > repairing/replacing. > > Would anyone consider a repaired insurance write off. > According to the seller, this > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4559761553 > was a Category C insurance write off, just because of the £1000 > replacment cost of a bumper (insurance price) and the bonnet). > > I looks solid, it looks straight, and it looks like he is being honest > when you question him.

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