Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:33:29 -0400 From: "Tex" <texnospamm101.org> Subject: Re: Most UNreliable luxury cars
"taltos" <paulft1atcomcast.net> wrote in message news:J46dnSugbMtoEWbfRVn-2Qnospamast.com... > > "Tex" <texnospamm101.org> wrote in message >> Keep in mind that this was a "Consumer Reports" listing. They are a >> magazine based in CT, USA that proclaims their independence because they >> buy all of the cars that they tested. ...and accept no advertisements. >> Historically, they love Lexus, Toyota, and Mazda. Their methods are >> somewhat unusual and not supported by other tests. Please feel free to expound on this. In particular, which methods are unusual? >> By the way, JD Powers gave Jaguar a #2 world-wide rating and Saab also >> did well. Saab did well??? I suppose if you consider bottom quarter of manufacturers to be "doing well", then yes. >> Choose which rating service to believe, but drive what you like. Own a >> Jag S-type, X-type and a base 9-5. Paul even from back in 2001... http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases/pressrelease.asp?ID=2002067 As the article states it takes time for the old perceptions to fade. Keep in mind however, the #2 Jaguar ranking only tells what's going on today, not what to expect in 3 years...that's where the VDS rankings come into play. Those tell a much different story, though it will be interesting to see if Jaguars 3 year VDS rankings increase commensurately, down the line. JDPA manufacturer rankings VDS Mfr Ranking: - Vehicle Dependability Survey (problems per 100 vehicles after 3 yrs of ownership) 2002: http://nospam.com/8hlaq (Saab: 28 / Jaguar: 23 ...of 37 manufacturers) 2003: http://nospam.com/8aw9n (Saab: 12 / Jaguar: 11 ...of 37) 2004: http://nospam.com/8rmaf (Saab: 14 / Jaguar: 25 ...of 37) 2005: http://nospam.com/bpyev (Saab: 28 of / Jaguar 23 ...of 36) IQS Mfr Rankings: - Initial Quality Survey (problems per 100 vehicles w/in first 90 days of ownership) 2002: ??? (Saab: ? / Jaguar: ? ...of 37 manufacturers) 2003: ??? (Saab: ? / Jaguar: ? ...of 37) 2004: http://nospam.com/7ldzn (Saab: 24 / Jaguar: 3 ...of 37) 2005: http://nospam.com/cd8yg (Saab: 27 of / Jaguar 2 ...of 36) Sorry, I couldnt find the IQS for 2002 and 2003. If someone finds them, please post. These figures do not bode well for Saab as it, _at best_, puts them only slightly above average amongst manufacturers. At worst, in the bottom tier. - tex
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