Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:49:31 GMT
From: Saab Guy <nothingnospamo.com>
Subject: Re: Saabvideos.com Bandwidth statistic (500Gigs in 15 days)


Dexter, I will forward your message to the site admin ASAP. Thank you SG On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:58:33 GMT "Dexter J" <lamealameadingdongnospamlamelame.org> wrote: > Salutations: >=20 > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:27:37 -0300, Saab Guy <nothingnospamo.com> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:04:03 +0100 > > Grunff <grunffnospam.com> wrote: > > > >> Saab Guy wrote: > >> > >> > What is =A38000pa ? $8.00 USD? > >> > >> Lol. No, that'd be around 20000 USD per annum. You could probably buy > >> the same kind of hosting in the US for around 8000 USD per annum. > >> > >> > We really need a good unlimited bandwidth server and fast. > >> > >> Once again, there's no such thing as 'unlimited bandwidth'. > >> > >> -- > >> Grunff > > > > Grunff, > > > > Thanks, but I did not make any money off of this ongoingproject, nor do= =20 > > I plan to. > > > > How on earth would I be wanting to spend any $$ to haveit hosted ??? > > > > I spent money in shipping/receiving the videos though.Couldn't anyone = =20 > > help??? > > > > SG >=20 > Ok brother saab guy - at the risk of further annoying you - have you =20 > checked your raw logs yet? 500g a month is *very* heavy traffic for what = =20 > is in the end a pretty simple vid site. Even big vids. >=20 > You need to do your math and consider if it is realistic that you have th= e =20 > human user base to justify the transfer totals ('bandwidth' as you are =20 > reading it actually means 'transfer totals' as brother Grunff was saying). >=20 > I did some quick math and I'm still pretty much convinced that between yo= u =20 > and your host, it is configured so that: >=20 > a: a user re-downloads the vid every time they kick up a view. >=20 > b: you are being cross linked from one of several pirate sites (again - = =20 > hello apnic). >=20 > c: you are being slurped by one of many bots out there which rightfully = =20 > need to be banned. >=20 > Look - I know that popular wisdom has it that any 6 year old can put up a= =20 > full bore multi-media website. However, it takes some actual real effort = =20 > to set it up and administer it so that it doesn't break the bank once it'= s =20 > up. >=20 > Very few site hosts take care of this for some really good reasons and th= e =20 > transfer warning you have received is sort of their way of saying you =20 > might want to look at all this more carefully. Ignorance of the detail is= =20 > expensive as with any technical issue. >=20 > Sooo - again - get the raw logs and drop them into any spread sheet, then= =20 > review on time stamp and kb transferred. You will find several entries =20 > that are getting your page, supporting images and starting vid downloads = =20 > within a couple of secs. This is a likely a slurper. Look at banning the = =20 > IP ranges. Although this is a pretty lame band-aid, it will help in the = =20 > near term. >=20 > Check the referrer links into your site and back track to the IP. A red = =20 > flag is a link to a vid without a corresponding visit to your site proper= . =20 > You can use mod_rewrite to control this as you will likely find your vids= =20 > (but not your site) dynamically linked through some very strange portals.= =20 > You started posting direct vid links to this NG a while ago - they will b= e =20 > turning up in several places that swipe this NG to generate supposed =20 > content. Take some time with this: >=20 > http://www.google.ca/search?q=3Dsaabvideos&hl=3Den&lr=3D&start=3D10&sa=3DN >=20 > Please be aware - direct links are not always a pirate - sometimes someon= e =20 > just bookmarks a particular vid. However, with transfer heavy objects - i= t =20 > is good practice to require a site visit to download a vid. >=20 > Finally - you want to look at the multi-media client type that caches you= r =20 > vids locally at the user rather than calling a new download every time =20 > it's linked, stopped and started or paused. >=20 > Or, as I did, grudgingly replace your format with something that is =20 > substantially more controllable as regards transfer rates and client =20 > caching. >=20 > Now, I'm the first to say that RealAudio is kinda a pain - but most of my= =20 > regulars are on non-windows platforms and have the beans to know how to = =20 > cripple the annoying nagz-wares aspects of it. Also, as it has turned out= , =20 > there are now a couple of good non-RealAudio free-warz players right now = =20 > that will read the codex directly. >=20 > Anyway brother SAAB guy, I know this should be a freak out of the highest= =20 > order for you at the moment. Here you are with a good free use site that = =20 > is about to cost you winter tires. But like most things in life - doing = =20 > the deeper reading will save you considerable bux once you are done. >=20 > Again - cheers and best of luck, it's a pretty good idea and worth the =20 > effort to figure these details out if you ask me. >=20 > -- >=20 > Radio Free Dexterdyne Top Tune o'be-do-da-day > Stevie Wonder - Living for the City > http://www.dexterdyne.org/888/076.RAM >=20 > all tunes - no cookies no subscription no weather no ads > no news no phone in no sign up required - all the Time

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