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Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:03:58 -0600
From: Charles <cstoyernospamrpex.com>
Subject: Re: 92 9kT sudden clutch failure
Charles C. wrote:
> Charles wrote:
> > I pushed in the clutch on my 92 9000 Turbo w/191k miles today and it
> > went to the floor.
>
> You mean no pressure on it? It should go to the floor anyway.
Only pressure was the return spring.
>
> >
> > I am not used to sudden catastrophic failure of a hydraulic clutch. The
> > linkage seems fine, the plunger seems to be going into the master
> > cylinder, but no clutch. There does not seem to be any evidence of leaks
> > and the fluid in the TCS/ABS brake reservoir is full. It seems that is
> > where the clutch fluid comes from?
> >
> > Any suggestions as to what went wrong?
>
> If the problem is hydraulic then
>
> - if it was the slave cylinder it should leak as the seal(s) would have
> failed.
>
> - if there is no leaking fluid it should be the master cylinder (I had
> two fail on my 900s for brakes, they did so slowly not the way you
> describe).
>
> If master works slave is just a piston. If fluid goes in the cylinder
> piston goes out and returns from the pressure of the clutch.
>
> If it is mechanical then the pressure (thingie) of the clutch must have
> collapsed. You would have heard some noises ... too unlikely.
Funny, there was no warning. It was like a cable clutch, one day, the
cable snaps! Normally with Hydraulic clutches you have some warning,
feels funny, leaks, etc. I looked at the slave particularly and could
see no leaks there. Nor under the car.
> >
> > If it is in the slave cylinder we are looking at $1250 here.
>
> It should be no different to the price for a clutch job (and if you have
> to do the slave you should consider replacing the clutch too).
>
> Sorry for your bad news.
> Charles
Well, as you know, modern clutches have the slave inside the clutch
mechanism, not outside like the 95/96/97 V4's. So you replace the whole
damn thing. $1,250. US dollars in Denver, CO.
>
> PS. Read on in case it means anything to you what you got.
>
> Newer 9k, around year 1996 onwards got a modified flexible pipe fitted
> between firewall and g/box (GM part). The rubber pipe was reputed to
> break down internally and release pieces of rubber which eventually
> resulted in its collapse. They blocked the valves in the slave cylinder
> and reputedly also damaged the seals.
>
> When it happened to me my then dealer took me to the cleaners (bnospamds)
> and I never got the failed parts back. There was also a story that the
> slave itself collapsed.
>
> Whatever caused the problem, a badly designed pipe or a Return to Main Index
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