Date: 21 Nov 2006 13:34:33 GMT
From: Dave Hinz <>
Subject: Re: Lifetime of Saab

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 06:31:53 +0100, Greg Farris <> wrote: > In article <>, says... > >> >>There you go again. Here let's pretend I researched and posted a >>laundry list of things Saab either did first, or made workable first, >>and you disregard them as trivial and/or not purely original. Then >>let's pretend that we played word games and bullshit over the definition >>of "invented" and got nowhere. (whew) just saved 3 iterations of posts. > > Rather than prentending we did all kinds of reasearch we haven't really done, > and came up with all kinds of astonishing results that are not really > demonstrable, a more rational approach would be to look at the intentions and > acheivements of the marque. You are again assuming you're the only one who knows about the topic. But by all means, do go on and on with your interpretation of that which some of us know possibly better than you; go ahead, we're all waiting with, um, varying degrees of interest I suppose. You're also apparently unaware that sometimes ones doesn't have to to "research" on a topic, if they already know about it. Do I have to "research" that a workable turbo went into production in 1977? (insert quibble about the word "production", go ahead if you must). > Saab began as a diversification effort for an > aircraft manufacturer who saw their market eroding at the end of WWII. Their > intention was unabashedly to make the most economical car they could, and their > model was the DKW. Wrong. So much for your "facts". Hint: there's this thing called "google", another called "wikipedia", and a third being direct personal experience. You would benefit from applying any of them. > I don't see anything wrong with this story, except for the unhappy ending. I > regret, as you probably do, that this slightly unusual, forward-looking > approach could not, in today's market, be greeted with better success, but this > is not sufficient for me to subscribe to every sort of mythology about the > marque, or to ascribe to them all sorts of secret inventions, so sophisticated > as to be as yet impenetrable to the rest of the industry, not the least of > which is the reciprocating piston engine not subject to the types of wear their > bretheren suffer, and thus capable of lasting "forever". Wow. That was a really long sentence. You seem obsessed about this "forever" word. So what did you think about the high mileage listings? Yes, on a cosmic time scale, these cars don't last "forever", nobody has claimed otherwise. Did you have any facts to add to the discussion, or should I just expect you to come up with more errors like your claim about Saab making a model called the DKW...

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