Site News - 11/22 Member of the Year Voting
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:23:35 +0100
From: "DervMan" <thedervmannospaml.com>
Subject: Re: What killed this group?


"johannes" <johsnospam-nospamme95754-fitter.com> wrote in message news:46DAD497.12DA0CAEnospam-nospamme95754-fitter.com... > > > DervMan wrote: >> >> "Richard Sutherland-Smith" <richard.ssnospamr.net.nz> wrote in message >> news:d1d7fc1b4f.Richardnospamard.ss.clear.net.nz... >> >> "Al" <alistairdorenospamo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:Z3%Bi.189412$lx3.6123nospamnews.blueyonder.co.uk... >> >>> >> >>> "DervMan" <thedervmannospaml.com> wrote in message >> >>> news:46d853a4$0$13924$fa0fcedbnospam.zen.co.uk... >> >>>> "E. Newnes" <enewns45nospamo.com> wrote in message >> >>>> news:epafd3tbrdb1i5rh1d23ggjh65cskp0ikenospamcom... >> >>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:21:14 +0100, "DervMan" >> >>>>> <thedervmannospaml.com> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>>On the other hand, there are many people being introduced to Saab >> >>>>>>*because* >> >>>>>>of the GM influence. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> But they are not being introduced to real Saabs, only to the ghost >> >>>>> of >> >>>>> the "brand". Long time GM customers are used to a diet of multi >> >>>>> hued >> >>>>> shit and would only expect more of the same, so they will >> >>>>> inadvertently aid and abet the loss of Saab DNA. >> >>>> >> >>>> Says who? What makes a real Saab a real Saab? Why is a current >> >>>> Saab a >> >>>> lesser Saab than a 1980 Saab? >> >>>> >> >>>> Drive any modern <insert brand> and it's very different from >> >>>> something >> >>>> in >> >>>> the 1970s. Modern stuff with a Saab badge is a modern >> >>>> interpretation >> >>>> of >> >>>> what you may consider to be a proper Saab. >> >>>> >> >>> Sorry, but that's just Tommy Rot. It's not an interpretation, it's a >> >>> Vauxhall with a blue badge. (I like Vauxhalls BTW!) >> > >> >> Aie but who designed it? >> > >> >>> Real Saabs died with the 9000, the last Saab with any true Saab >> >>> bloodline. >> >>> >> >>> That said, the 9-3 is an excellent motorcar, and the most reliable >> >>> car >> >>> (of >> >>> any brand) we've ever owned was a NG 900s. >> > >> >> My heart wanted a classic Saab 900 Turbo with air conditioning. >> > >> >> My budget said 9-3. My head said Mondeo TDCi. >> > >> >> In the end I bought the diesel 9-3, knowing its faults* but also its >> >> strengths. It has the understeery Saab-esque handling, it has those >> >> seats >> >> and that interior, but it also has a Japanese engine and GM running >> >> gear. >> > >> > The old 9-3 had a GM diesel 2.2L, the new one has the Alfa derived >> > 1.9L. They have a Jap auto gearbox? >> >> It's an Isuzu-designed unit. > > But bear in mind that FIAT originally pioneered the common rail diesel > injection system, so the Alfa derived 1.9 turbo diesels engines aren't > bad for a rep-mobile. Also found in Vauxhall/Opel cars. It's a fantastic engine - when it works. Unfortunately, it isn't the most reliable donk around, by any stretch. In some applications it even makes the VAG TDI technology seem quiet and smooth, too. :) -- The DervMan www.dervman.com

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