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Re: car phone installation for using saab built in mic and speakers
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Posted by 2Slow (more from 2Slow) on Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:40:27 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: car phone installation for using saab built in mic and speakers, Erik, Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:42:21
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Here is a previous post I made. If you have any specific questions post back. If you happen to live or want to drive to MI, I can help you out. Post an e-mail address if you want to come by some day.

The post below applies to 2000 or older 9-5's without onstar. For installs with Onstar the process is different.



The system works wonderfully and is pretty damn cool in general. It is a fairly easy install and the advice I got from the guys on this
board really helped. OK here goes:

What you need:

The saab adapter-- ~U$13 sku# 49-42-058 available at saabcatalog.com

A handsfree kit for your phone-- ~U$ 125 (for nokia CARK-91 kit available from 1800mobiles.com)

An antenna-- I went through a few and liked the Panorama TAP-3f http://www.panorama.co.uk/Product_Catalogue/internal.html
It is available for 26 bucks plus shipping through antennaworld at:
http://www.antennaworld.com/eshop/Default.ASP?WCI=ItemDetails&WCE=CLPC-851901G
I advise the Saab radio tool. It is not necessary, but makes the job hassle free. -- ~U$ 12 at dealer you can also get one from a stero shop or crutchfield, but I really like the saab version
since it is color coded so you know exactly how deep to press it in.

Ok the first step is to remove the ACC unit. One of our BB friends advises prying it out with two rigid pieces of plastic. After
removing mine the hard way, I now see how his easy way can be done. If I didn't know where the tabs were though I might damage
things in the process. I would advise the prying method first, and if that doesn't work easily go buy the saab radio tool and remove
the radio. Once the radio is out you just push the ACC out from behind. (removing the radio also gives a little more room to work,
but it really is not necessary) Lastly if your radio tabs are mangled and you can't pry the ACC unit out remove the glove box and the
metal bracket with a grey piece of foam on it and you should be able to get to the back of the ACC/Radio.

At this point I would try to find out where different things may fit and decide on a wiring path. Once you have that finalized go to the
next step. For reference I put the nokia control behind and box under the ACC and the cradle (Nokia provided) was double side
taped to the dash next to the TCS switch. I ran the wires between the two through the edge of the steering column. (Bottom right
corner where the leather meets the woodgrain. There is a dash fastner there that I removed ran the wires than replaced. It came out
pretty neat.

Once you have finalized your decisions run and hook up the required wires. Everything from the Nokia kit pretty much mated right
to the saab harness. I did have to cut the speaker and microphone wires on the Nokia kit. The speaker wires were black and red and I took Black to be
- and red to be +. The mic wire was shielded so I took the center lead to be + and the outer shield to be - I don't think it should
matter too much if you screw up the polarity.

Ok now that you have access to the back of the ACC you will see a unterminated piece of coax with a little masking tape on it, and
the connector that the Saab adapter plugs into. To plug the Saab harness into the aforementioned connector, pull the red tab on the
connector in the car all the way up, and simultaneously insert the harness and push the red tab down.

I would connect the end of the Panorama Tap-3f antenna to the nokia kit and rout it either to the drivers side rear windshield or the passenger side front. I put it in the rear and the length of cable is just long enough to do so. I mounted the antenna so that it did no cover any of the radio antenna wires in the rear window and only covered one rear window defogger wire.

If you have a Nokia/Ericsson phone you are in luck and the mic should be set by default to the correct level. If you have a motorola
phone you may need to switch the setting on the mic from high to low. To do this gently pry the front face (side closer to the
windshield) of the overhead console downward. You do not have to remove the whole console to access the mic. from there you
should see the connector that goes to the mic. Remove it and carefully pull the wire from terminal 2 and put it in terminal 3 There
should be a release on the wire tabs, be sure to actuate it, not to just yank the wire out. Put everything back together.


Hope this helps all the people who were thinking about doing this. I know that all the dealers I called and the stereo/cell shops were
not very familiar. I really appreciate the advice of Goran Lasson and all those on the board who helped. Hopefully this is a fairly
complete install guide that someone else can use.

-Joe

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