Print this and give to the dealer. - Saab 9-5 Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

95 Bulletin Board
1999-2009 [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main 95 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Print this and give to the dealer.
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Gforce (more from Gforce) on Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:28:41 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: Steering off-center, Gforce, Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:23:00
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

Date: 04/07/00

To: All Saab Dealers
Saab Service Manager
Saab Parts Manager


Code: 731

Reference: Addressing customer complaint of drifting to one side - All 9-5 Models

To address a complaint of drifting, first:

Make sure that the DOT markings on the tire wall are pointing out. If the tire is directional, make sure the tires are correctly fitted before checking for DOT marking.

Make sure that the tire pressures are correct.

Make sure the car does not have any damage to the chassis. Have any chassis repairs been done?

Make sure that the wheel alignment is according to specification.

It is often believed that a car pulls to one side if it drifts towards the shoulder of the road when the driver lets go of the steering wheel. In most cases, this behavior is not caused by pulling but by a slight inclination of the road towards the shoulder - road crown (curvature of the road surface). The reason all roads have road crown is that the road must cope with all kinds of weather conditions; for example, it must help clear the road of water during a rain storm.

Due to road crown, a vehicle must generate a slight lateral force towards the middle of the road in order to maintain a straight path and not drift towards the shoulder. This lateral force is generated by a tiny steering wheel angle input applied by the driver. The steering angle generates a steering wheel torque that the driver also has to apply to the steering wheel.

If the driver lets go of the steering wheel, the lateral force needed to compensate for the road crown will disappear and the car will start drifting towards the shoulder. The steering wheel will also turn slightly in the direction of the drift. This is completely normal.

Pull to the side, on the other hand, is generated by irregularities in: chassis, powertrain, tires, brakes, etc. and makes the car drift to the left or to the right when the car is driven on a surface without road crown.

If you find that the car pulls to the side, check the car as follows:

Wheel alignment: If toe and camber angles in the front and rear are out of specification, this can cause a problem with the car pulling to one side. Too much toe-in at either the front or rear axles can make the car sensitive to ruts and road crown, causing the car to pull quicker to one side where ruts are present and also where road crown is high.
Tires: If alignment is within specification, swap wheels from the left to the right side at the front first and verify if this causes any changes to the pulling. Then, change the wheels from the left to the right side at the rear. Finally, move the front tires again from the left to the right. Notice if there is any difference and choose the best combination.
Chassis: Put the car on a lift. Check that the front wheels of the car can be turned to their steering end positions with normal resistance. There should be no noise while doing this (no crunching or snapping from the front spring or the upper strut mounting bearing housing.) If any noise is heard, check the axial ball bearing between the upper spring support and the upper strut mount. It should not be damaged or have any oil leakage. If that is the case, the friction between the front strut and the body can cause the front spring to try to pull the front axle either to the left or the right. Make sure the wheels are running easily, i.e., the brakes' rest torque should not be excessive. Brake rest torque difference between left and right side can cause the car to pull to the side. Also check that the chassis bushings are intact. If a bushing is damaged in any way, this can cause geometric changes to wheel suspension geometry which might cause the car to pull sideways.
Steering rack: In some very rare cases, the steering rack power steering valve has been slightly mis-cut. If this is the case the steering rack will force the front axle to turn without the driver applying any torque to the steering wheel. To check this, raise the front end of the car. Position the steering wheel straight ahead and start the engine without holding on to the steering wheel. The steering wheel should remain in the straight ahead position when the engine is running. If it does not, replace the steering rack.

If the car is found to be within specifications and the analysis shows that the car drifts to the side, the solution is to change both front chassis springs. See the table below for old to new part number conversion. Testing has determined that the root cause for a customer complaint of drifting to one side is that the front chassis springs generate internal forces that produce a torque on the front spring strut, causing the car to drift. To determine correct spring application, check the suspension coding found on the VIN plate on the vehicle (located above the left fender toward the A-pillar).

Old P/N New P/N VIN Break

45 66 659 50 62 294 Y3059116
45 66 667 50 62 302 Y3052420
45 66 675 50 62 310 Y3052289
50 56 338 50 62 328 Y3044974
50 62 187 50 62 344 Y3005606
50 62 195 50 62 351 Y3005606
50 62 237 50 62 369 Y3005606


Thank you for your attention.



posted by 12.38.2...


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!