In Reply to: You missed the point entirely......, Mike Lynch [Profile/Gallery] , Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:39:04

Obviously statistics are very important in engineering. But statistics as used in engineering (eg tolerance work) is quite different than this... this appears to be abuse of statistics + it is very common. I believe that is CY's point. The numbers cited (comparisons of walking vs driving using mileage) suggest that walking + driving are interchangeable activities. Ie, that one might walk the same distance per year as one drives. That is probably not true for most of us! The same could be said of your comparison with aircraft vs driving.

A more reasonable comparison would be time based. What is the rate of accidents walking vs time spent driving, compared to the rate of accidents driving vs time spent driving (vs rate of accidents flying vs time spent flying)... for the average person, on a time spent basis, driving is by far the most dangerous of those activities.

A SAAB is safer than a Toyota based on statistics comparing apples to apples. That said, the number of these stuck accelerator pedal incidents are fairly low (relative to the number of Toyotas on the road), so the level of danger has probably been overstated in the media. What the media should be saying is "Stop buying Toyotas! They're too boring!!"...

James...

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• Risk Professor on Toyota recall, FauxRealism, Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:26:45
  • Re: Risk Professor on Toyota recall, swede-murphy , Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:54:08
    • I disagree..., CY, Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:37:56
      • There's lies, damn lies, and statistics!-Mark Twain, EricG, Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:31:42
      • You missed the point entirely......, Mike Lynch , Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:39:04
        • Ouch!, CY, Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:42:39
        • abuse of statistics..., James, Tue, 6 Apr 2010 03:46:04 <-- Viewing This Message
          • Walkin' vs drivin'....hemmin' and hawin'..., Mike Lynch , Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:51:59
      • yeah, the walking statistic is ridiculous because..., James, Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:32:32
      • I disagree too, nwas, Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:01:07
        • Honestly, I just did and for a second was startled, bender , Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:05:24
          • Re: Honestly, I just did and for a second was startled, nwas, Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:42:30
            • Re: Honestly, I just did and for a second was startled, bender , Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:37:21
              • Re: Honestly, I just did and for a second was startled, TML , Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:39:42
                • Always learning something new. I didn't know this, bender , Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:24:32
                  • You hit on one of the root causes of the Toyota problem, Bill Homer , Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:47:30
          • I just did "watch the video you mentioned" nwas, bender , Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:05:57

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