and practicality. Everyone at this board seems to give imports aka ricers lots of chuckles and posses on them. I don't know how awesome their saab is but isure know that not all import tuners should be thrown to the wolves. My friend's 1996 Honda Civic will rip the genitalia off of a viggen and then kick you in your leather covered seats. He has the jackson racing superchager, aftermarket headers, fully upgraded suspension (not clipped springs), upgraded cams and lobes, MSD ignition, short throw shifter, exhaust..subdued not the coffee can style and various other upgrades...and check this out...not a single decal or sticker, the factory spoiler and 15in lightweight wheels, what a SLEEPER, you should see the look on drivers faces when he outruns cars 4times as much as his and get this he still gets 28-30mpg on pump gas, no body kits on this bad boy. You should have heard this 30+ Viggen owner talking to an 18 yr old about his car well the Viggen still thought he could take the lowly "H"...well 15 min later Kyle comes back with the biggest smile on his face and the Viggen looks absolutly embarassed...i didn't even have to ask what happened, his 0-60 is about 5.7-6.0 depending on his shifting and traction and all of this for aprx. $10,000. He still tells me i have an awesome car but he doesn't understand why you would buy a saab for performance..the viggen just makes him laugh..."just another rich mans mid-life crisis wanabe sports car"

I rest my case in stating that not all ricers are like this some are all show and no go...but one day your time will come and you will meet a SMART tuner driving a sleeper and when you look over at him and laugh...be weary...that laugh might just come back and bite you in your @ss!

Can't understand why everyone has this holier then though art attitude, a Automobile Aficianado is an Automobile Aficianado no matter what he drives. In the words of Rodney King, Can't we all just get along?"

• Fast and Furious movie. 10 second car. Is that true?, k from Seattle, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:07:31
  • Modern muscle cars, Scott K., Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:30:59
  • Isn't there, ..., GM, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:37:16
  • 8.49 sec at 171 mph., pmr, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:54:27
  • Extreme Motorsports has a sub 10sec Talon, Ckpaden, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:59:03
  • Ten sec. ¼'s aren't uncommon..., brian@saabcenter.com, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:52:36
    • Don't you have a supercharged miata?, Rookie, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:34:38
      • It's turbo-charged. Great easy to do (or have done) set-up., brian@saabcenter.com, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:49:31
    • They snap their axles all the time with all of the torque, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:00:26
    • Isn't kinda fun seeing the FWD Hondas Take in Big Blocks n/m, Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:55:26
  • I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Rookie, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:35:33 <-- Viewing This Message
    • Why would you spend $10,000 to upgrade a Civic?, Schu, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:44:27
      • Why would you spend money to upgrade a Saab?, Mike 87 900s, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:44:38
    • Wow...but he's still driving a Honda. n/m, Richard P., Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:02:52
    • Rice isn't about real performance, its about looks, Mike, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:06:28
    • Jackson Racing SC is not that good, nickR, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:36:25
      • How much HP does a turboed-Civic usually push? n/m, Ryan , Tue, 26 Jun 2001 04:10:01
        • All depends, nickR, Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:38:56
    • uhh....but it is still a civic...which is NOT an automobile...., chrisx, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:16:02
    • Let's see - heavily modified vs. stock..., saabaru, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:15:30
    • Slow down Rook, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:54:57
      • You are SO totally right!, bazil burns, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:15:36
      • Hey..., Jay S, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:03:07
        • rear spoiler (wing) and it was in a junkyard for $50!!!, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:28:16
    • We're on the same page., Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:48:39
    • Re: I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:44:41
      • Re: I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Jay S., Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:58:53
        • I hear ya.., Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:42:06
        • The heart of the problem is..., Chad, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:05:02
    • Slight correction...., Jeff Newton, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:42:33
      • Re: Slight correction...., Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:45:51
    • You have described about .01% of the riceboy population!, Jeff Cunningham, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:40:02
      • Exactly...., AdamB , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:26:11
  • Yup its true., Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:20:38
    • Correct, never on the street, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:30:27

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