Re: wreckless driving ticket - help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Saab Performance Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

Performance Bulletin Board
[Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main Performance Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Re: wreckless driving ticket - help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Bryce [Email] (more from Bryce) on Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:19:43 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: wreckless driving ticket - help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, clay, Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:08:50
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

Clay, Sorry to hear they got you. I do love those lightning blue Viggen's. Did you go with that or another color (the yellow seems to ring a bell)? In any case, beautiful car. Much, much more distinctive than my Aero but then, I'm trying to avoid notice from the police and a silver 9-5 is pretty understated

In any case, I don't have such a clean record myself (6 more months and it finally starts improving again, whew...) and last year fought a speeding ticket here in Minnesota. I have to second Jeff's advice (Jeff & Royce - thanks for your great site, has helped with my 85 900), get a membership with the NMA. You can go to http://www.motorists.org to sign up.

That said, your reckless driving ticket is probably substantially more serious than a plain speeding (it is in MN). I believe that the last time I looked at the points chart for Progressive (bad record, under-25 single male - Progressive's great), a reckless had the same point structure as a DWU/DUI. It's a serious ticket. In fact, any ticket is probably serious if your record is otherwise clean.

By the way, I believe 25 over or more in Minnesota is immediate grounds for a reckless ticket. You can certainly get one for less given other conditions.

Depending on your relationship with your insurance agent, you may be able to talk to them. I trust my agent and have recieved "hypothetical" quotes in the past without the company finding out. I don't know if this is just that I have a great agent or if they are required to act on your behalf or the companies. Given that, if you're comfortable, try to assess your costs.

As for fighting a ticket, with the NMA's assistance I went to a full trial. It's a long story (maybe I'll type it up this weekend - rather funny actually), but after 3 hours I'd proven with simply physics that it was just plain impossible that the officer got me as he testified. Of course, I was able to elicit the responses I wanted from him, some of which may have been been incorrect but it's his testimony that convicts or acquits me. In any case, the judge would have nothing of it and I lost. So, yes I did get the ticket and it hurt. However, 3 of 4 speeding cases that day were dismissed due to some portion of the prosecution (1 attorney and 2 officers) not showing up for court! Those are pretty good odds. I was the only one that could even go to trial. I think perhaps I pissed off both the attorney and officer with all my rescheduling so they may have been more likely to show up.

I also think that showing up for my pretrial meeting in a suit, briefcase, and palmpilot did not help. Perhaps the BMW 328i listed on the ticket had something to do with it also. I was never offered a chance to plea-bargain it down, even with a clean record. Bummer. I probably did a good job of casting myself in the "yuppie" role that the prosecuting attorney's office loves to nail.

As another possible benefit, I really learned a lot representing myself in court. I'm not saying you should do this but it was a great experience for me. If you can't really afford to lose, do not go this route. What's that phrase, "The lawyer representing himself has a fool for a client"?

Good luck!

Bryce

00 9-5 Aero
85 900S


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!