Date: 1 Dec 2002 05:26:00 -0800
From: (Elizabeth)
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on safety?

Very salient point, I am usually better with words, in the true definition I am not a fanatic, what made me fall in love with Saabs the first time was a 70's commercial pitting the attributes of a Saab 99 against a 'typical german sports sedan' lots of fast alpine driving, cornering and stopping each narrated by 'we know that your typical german sports sedan can do this, and this, and even this... but can your typical german sports sedan do this..' then they procede to jump this thing off a half ramp at high speed causing the car to roll in the air so that it would do a gymnastic cartwheel, landing sideways and nose first then continueing to flip and spin end over end until it stopped upright and backwards facing the camera at which time the narrator continues ' and still do this?' as it starts up and speeds off. now at 7 or 8 years old that was just really cool, over the years I have studied dilligenly and only found layer after layer of Saab engineering that blew me away, many many of the safety features you enjoy today where first pioneered by Saab. I digress, yes dead people dont talk about the safety of their cars, only statistics, if you put your butt in a brand new saab 9-5 and just start driving, in all conditions, all over the world you will find that on average you will drive farther before being killed in a crash in that car than all but a handfull of other cars built, thats why I say that the american insurance testing group is clearly biased, on top of that nobody does better testing than Saab, they dont just do the obligtory off-set and 5mph bumper tests, they think of ways to create horrible real life accidents and on top of that they send someone out to every major accident in sweden that involves a saab (same as volvo). I read an article where the author was complaining about the wierd ignition key in the center console, never bothering to investigate that saab put it there to spare his knee cap in an accident, not to be cute. seatbelt annalogy: heard that many times and it is a tough argument, the true core of which is that we all hate the idea of dying because we did something extra to prevent it, much the same as a flew shot, some people actually get sick and die from the flu shot, not many but it does happen. Not easy but it then stands to reason that you listen to statistics. no one would argue that a Taurus is safer than a Saab 900, your real premise is that it is safe enough and probably more economical, quite simply safe enough isnt in a parents vocabulary, or at least shouldnt be, thats our job, to be the angel on the other shoulder. besides, they make jet fighters! how cool is that!? :) Thanks -Dave COLUG <> wrote in message news:<VdaG9.40660$>... > Elizabeth wrote: > > (Dads response to this one) > > > > I am the Saab fanatic in the house that got this whole thing started, > > there are many reasons that I am responding to this but I think I > > would have to say that the most significant is that I am among the > > living. If my brother had believed that a Taurus was a good choice > [chop] > > Has it every occured to you that the dead don't write testimonials about > how their car performed in the accident that killed them? > > You describe yourself a Saab fanatic. A fanatic is over enthusiastic > and has uncritical devotion to something. > > Your antecdoal evidence proves nothing. I had a co-worker who whose > mother was told by a police officer that she would have died had she > been wearing her seatbelt during a rollover accident. He uses that bit > of advice as justification for NOT wearing a seat belt. > > There are many safe (and unsafe) automobiles in production. This is a > fact, not my opinion. > > > > There are many manufacturers listed, including Ford and Saab. :)

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