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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:17:51 GMT
From: "Abdallah" <>
Subject: Re: front end mis-alignment or...?

> > Just a thought Abdallah - does the car sit unevenly - left > or right > > side lower due to possible spring/spring seat problem? > > i'll take a closer look when i have it on a level parking > lot (i live in the hills). no visible seating problem there - both sides appear to be at the same height. > > Or how was the handling - stable or uncertain? Wondering > if > > you in fact were given a "toe-out" alignment by mistake. > > handling was fairly stable. i took a look at the toe-out > and it seems like that may be it, though its really hard to > say. i'll be having it looked at by a specialist on friday. i had a long and close look at the toe-out possibility. i'm no expert, but its definitely way off. i aligned the steering and aligned my eye with the outside face of the tyre, looking from the front on each side, and both tyres are turned toe-out - and it looks like the front of each tyre is out about 1.5cm!!! that blew me away. needless to say i'll be following up with the body shop that repaired the car after the accident... i guess the toe-out really improves "handling" at the expense of tyre wear?? how could the alignment guys do a "toe-out" alignment by "mistake"? and that badly!? > > I am however doubtful of my ideas here, since I can > > not imagine that any of these being true could result in > the > > extreme tyre wear you describe. > > that's what i thought. on the other hand, a lesson in not eliminating any possibilities until they are fully proven implausible... looking at the tyre treads now, the rest of the treads are very badly worn as well - almost half gone everywhere, not just the bald edges. > > > If the camber's so far off that you see it, it's gotta be > camber. > > it's still visible with the car unloaded. on level ground, the camber is not that noticeable - certainly less so than the toe-out... > > Could be worth going back to the alignment people and > > demand that they measure all parameters (lasers and all > that), > > with another equipment operator, in case the previous one > > got it all wrong. > > good thought looks like i'll be doing just that - trouble is that the body shop got paid by the insurance company, and would have to chase their alignment specialist - i don't know what my chances of getting them to pay for new tyres would be..... > > unfortunately they aren't. a bit silly of me, but they > asked if they should check it and i said "no" because it had > been done as part of the accident repairs. i should have > had them double check. grrr - now i'm kicking myself...

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