Date: 19 Jun 2004 22:26:23 -0700
From: (The Diesel)
Subject: Re: Which one of these cars are the safest, and which one shouldI get?

"Hal Whelply" <whelplynospamnet> wrote in message news:<v3_Ac.37513$u%3.18719nospamread04>... > I'm surprised at the mention of Toyota. The Camry, at least a couple years > ago (perhaps they've fixed it) had only "2 stars" on side impact. > They've pretty much fixed it, especially with the Camry Solara Coupe although it hasn't been tested in the front offset test yet, it's done exceptionally well in all the other crash tests. > But the larger omission is Subaru. My '04 Forester is "5-stars" front and > side. Weighs 3,300 lbs., so it's in the same weight class as > Camry/Accord/S60 Volvo. Further, the new '05 Subaru Legacy/Outback received > the highest crash ratings ever from the Australian New Car Assessment > Programme. See You are certainly correct, the Forester is one of the safest SUVs out there, I wasn't looking for an SUV, but if I had the money and was looking to buy an SUV, then off the top of my head I think that the the Forester, Acura MDX, Chrysler Pacifica, and the Volvo XC90 would be the top 4 choices. The Forester did get 5 stars in the front crash test for the driver and passenger as well as 5 stars for the side impact for the front seats as well as 5 stars for the side impact for the rear seat and it did get a best pick rating in the IIHS front offset test as well. > > > HW > > "Johannes H Andersen" <"johs"nospamfitter_spam> wrote in > message news:nFRAc.17$C63.7nospamfe2-win... > > > > > > Half a Bee wrote: > > > > > > I won't totally disagree, but hold on a second... > > > > > > > Forget the Volvo; Volvo's reputation for crash safety is overblown, > > > > > > I don't think "overblown" is quite fair. If I'm going to have an > > > horriffic smash (y'know, where an SUV crosses the highway and hits the > > > front corner of my car at 220kmh closing speed, sending me into a spin > > > across 2 lanes of traffic and a rollover into a ditch) , I know what > > > cars I'd like to be in: Volvo, Mercedes, BMW, Saab and at a pinch, > > > Toyota. Minor accidents around town - it probably doesn't matter much. > > > Older Volvos are probably no better than new Toyotas, because other > > > manufacturers tend to follow with near-identical safety systems > > > (Toyota's "Safe-T-Cell" for example) but comparing present model with > > > present model, Volvo wins. But the gap between Volvo and "common" cars > > > is shrinking. The gap between Volvo and the German cars is quite small. > > > > I drive up and down a stretch of motorway every day. Accidents is an > > incredible common occurrence. In one particular week I was queuing in > > the morning AND in the evening every day to get past accidents. On > > some days I had to find alternative routes, i.e. the motorway became > > unusable for it's purpose at shifting traffic. Accidents are more > > survivable these days as cars are much better, in most cases you just > > get crumbled cars but inevitably large upsets in people's lives. I've > > seen people standing on the hard shoulder crying! It just makes me > > wonder how and why it happens, and why so regularly?

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