Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 10:21:41 -0400
From: ma_twain <ma_twainnospamo.com>
Subject: Re: 2000 9-3 cluth problem (maybe?)


Malt_Hound wrote: > username0327 wrote: > >> ma_twain wrote: >> >> >>> Riding the clutch to avoid rattling and shaking is not a option. >> >> >> Take >> >>> the car back and leave it over night so the dealership can experience >> >> >> >>> the problem first hand. Do this before the warranty is over. >> >> >> >> ok thanks. I appreciate the quick reply. >> To be more specific it lasts less then 1 second and seems to be harder >> to duplicate in first gear once the car is warmed up. I also have >> noticed that the throttle is very slow to respond when i take my foot >> off the pedal, when upshifting it will rev at about the same rpm >> basically until i let off the clutch into the next gear instead of >> slowing down while the clutch is depressed and foot off the gas, is >> this normal or should i also have that looked at? > > > What you describe, sad to say, is normal. > > As you may be aware, the actual throttle plate is not physically > connected to the accelerator pedal, as in the good old days. It is a > "drive by wire" system, which means your foot pedal operates only a > variable resistor (potentiometer) which then tells the control unit how > much throttle you want. The ECU then operates the throttle plate for > you via an electric servo motor. > > SAAB engineers, at some point in time, decided that the throttle should > be released slowly to reduce the emissions that occur in a trailing > throttle condition. This was a very unfortunate decision, IMO, as it > makes the driver feel disconnected from the engine and drive train > during shifting, and seriously hampers the total driving experience. > > The reason I am so aware of this is I purchased a 2000 9-3SEC last year. > This was to be my summer fun sporty car. I searched around and could > not find anyone who reported being able to change this characteristic > (ECU reprogram?) so I ended up selling off the car because of it, along > with the tendency the convertibles have for cowl shake. I could have > lived with the cowl shake, or worked to reinforce the chassis, but the > throttle thing just pissed me off too much. In the case of an auto > transmission, it would be a moot point, but part of my definition of > "driving" is clutching and shifting. > > Otherwise that car was a beauty. Gotta love that HOT!! It was hard > *not* to spin the tires on acceleration. ;-) > > -Fred W Fred - Thank you for the information. And to think some people prefer the 9-3 over the Classic. The automatic transmission is known as a "slush box" because of the same issues. It is sad to think a manual transmission has the issues. I will stick with my Classic, got to love the red box and shortshift kit :-)

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