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not seeing these issues ... ever! with the 9k series Posted by John Fitzgerald [Email]  (#77)  [Profile/Gallery]
(more from John Fitzgerald) on Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:19:07
In Reply to: 'stupid' is being very kind in IMO., vtsnaab [Profile/Gallery]
, Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:14:50
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I drive around with a wife and three kids, in Wisconsin, in January, while snowing and 28 degrees F outside. That's about the only time I can ever get any fogging to start being an issue, and jacking up the fan speed or [infrequently] touching the defrost button is all I do.
Unlike our 2001 Chev Suburban, with a 'fairly nice' ACC system - like the Saab, it waits for the engine to get up to a warmer temp before fan speed and defroster shifts to a mix position. But it does so too soon, and the fan goes too high. Sigh. When I drive it, I wish it had the Aero's ACC for the cold. Have more than one person riding with on a cold, rainy day? Or while it's snowing? Forget it. Max the fan speed, the AC is "too smart" to run below 41 F, and good luck. The cowl vents easily get jammed if parked outside in the snow ... I could go on.
Had a '98 Chrysler Town and Country, all the bells and whistles, top of the line minivan. Saab ACC beat it by a long shot.
Saab 9K: Timer defrost, the temp sensor [s] inside the plenum, watching coolant temp and adjusting the mix in spite of an override to fan speed - a great system, especially considering the vintage. The first few years [86 - 92? 93? idk ] didn't have the OFF switch or variable speed fan. Everything else [running the AC in the cold to help demist, etc, ramping up the fan speed] was very similar.
Sure, there are advantages to an 'all manual' system. The 1980 99GLi had three knobs and a two speed fan: "not quite fast enough" and "too noisy, but fast enough". Often drove with windows open, especially the rear quarter panels. Never had a 900, so no comments. But in the decades since 1986, we've always driven / owned at least one 9000, often two. Never had a flap stick, although I do change the filters every year and vacuum out any crud at the bottom. Never an actuator problem. Sure, fan motors, and a heater core now and then ... and I do clean the interior temp sensor once a year or so. But really, it can be that we drive it all winter here and the only overrides are tweaking it from 68 F to 70 F. Ok, maybe 72 F. That's it.
Pretty remarkable considering the vintage.
John
Burlington, Wisc
'73 96 RHD sold after four years in Middle Barton, Oxfordshire, UK
'80 99 sold after 20 years/192,000mi
'86 9kT sold after 12 years/approx 121,000 mi
'87 9kT sold after 9 years/approx 174,000 mi
'97 CSE given to my son after 8 years/, he sold it at 254k mi
'97 Aero 217,xxx mi
and a couple of 'non-Saabs':
'01 Suburban 126,xxx mi
'03 BMW 330 Cic 44,xxx mi
_______________________________________ John Burlington, Wisc '73 96 RHD sold after four years in Middle Barton, Oxfordshire, UK '80 99 bought new, sold after 20 years/192,000mi '86 9kT picked up at Trollhatten, sold after 12 years/approx 121,000 mi '87 9kT sold after 9 years/approx 174,000 mi '94 CSE given to my son after 8 years @ 245k; he sold it at 254k mi '95 Aero 146,xxx mi sold '98 CSE 248,xxx mi gave it away '97 Aero 317,xxx mi my daughter’s school car … gave away [we put 300k mi on it] still driving: '97 CSE 170xxx mi 'project car' for myself and my daughters to drive '07 9-3 2.0T 240xxx '08 9-5 191xxx mi my wife's daily driver and a couple of 'non-Saabs': '01 Suburban 201,xxx mi '03 BMW 330 Cic 84,xxx mi '14 Mercedes E350 103,xxx mi
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