An undergrad degree doesn;t differentiate you much these days. So many people have at least one master's.

I agree with some of the posts above that an ivy might not even be the best place for undergrads-- it's all about how you take advantage of what a school offers, and maybe a different school will be a better fit. I went to a school no one has heard of, and it was a great opportunity for people who took full advantage of it. Sadly, I did not.

Funny thing is, I do technically have a BA from Bard, which people have at least heard of.... but I've never been to Bard. My school was sort of taken over by it, but still seperate.

Really, though, no one has ever seemed to care where my BA is from. I think it will be a different story with the MS.

Oh.... I've also worked at Penn for a few years. And from what I've seen, a big part of being an ivy-league undergrad is forming groups which find elaborate ways to congratulate themselves on being wonderful enough to go to an ivy. No one needs that. Seriously, a lot of the kids are very talented and just do everything they try so well. A lot of them are perfectly ordinary. Most of them have a serious case of ivy league attitude (esp. the ordinary ones) and it's annoying. I don't think the grad students are as prone to that. I think the club attitude is based on where you did your undergrad. I also think that the people who really get into that are the least likely to do something interesting later. I suppose being a member of that club can open some doors to you, but the whole thing rubs me the wrong way.

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• Did anybody else get an Ivy League rejection?, Als, Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:11:40
  • 4.2 isn't very high GPA, Brian A Lee, Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:54:10
  • congratulations, kaslop, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:17:27
  • Thank you all ..., Als, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:39:22
  • Just make sure that..., Caarma , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:35:23
    • Re: Just make sure that..., turrbo , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:43:48
      • Didn't mean to downplay the abilities of TAs..., Caarma , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:30:24
        • I am a TA, nt moore, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:27:30
          • There are times that would be much more satisfying, RS , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:42:16
            • that's one reason I got out of engineering..., Bob M, Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:22:53
              • What field did you go into? n/m, RS , Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:03:55
                • Intellectual property law n/m, Bob M, Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:52:56
                  • That's certainly in demand these days., RS , Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:47:41
                    • It is..., Bob M, Tue, 19 Apr 2005 12:25:31
            • It's not respected in this country either, Caarma , Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:04:05
              • The richest people I know, Rafe, Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:28:53
                • Do they do engineering or management?, RS , Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:42:40
                  • software developers n/m, Rafe, Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:05:46
                    • that'll do it. Like the guys from Id Sofware, RS , Fri, 15 Apr 2005 20:32:38
              • no kidding, nt moore, Fri, 15 Apr 2005 07:54:55
  • Contrary to a lot of other posts, a LOT is in the name!, NickR, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:53:41
  • Oooh the thin envelope..., Jeff Newton, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:43:27
  • Ever considered application to W&M, Todd N, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:25:47
    • What year??, NateinAA, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:39:45
  • Re: Did anybody else get an Ivy League rejection?, Sonique, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:23:44
  • Re: Did anybody else get an Ivy League rejection?, Rafe, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:59:14
  • Math question, Rafe, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:16:48
    • Also depends on weighted/unweighted..., turrbo , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:13:02
    • Re: Math question, Dan , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:24:03
    • Honors courses....... nm, MJM , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:26:55
      • Well that is an interesting practice, Rafe, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:39:28
        • it does have some merit, isobel, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:46:32
          • I can see both sides of this..., Bob M, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:51:08
            • engineering killed my verbal brain, isobel, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:12:58
              • It doesn't have to - that's your choice . . ., Mike in Anchorage, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 23:29:05
              • mine, too, though, Bob M, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:13:59
                • Alto clef will do that to you, RS , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:40:11
                  • I think you have to learn an instrument..., Bob M, Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:19:56
            • High schools can use whatever, Rafe, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:06:28
  • What does it take????, Mark, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:08:53
  • Me, RedAeroGirl, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:59:25
    • I totally agree!!! >>, PGAero , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:56:40
  • How about a different kind of school? (long), NateinAA, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:56:23
  • Admission policies seem to be a moving target...., MI-Roger , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:52:12
  • How were his application essays? nm, tsw, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:37:49
  • i'm suprised..., isobel, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:31:57
  • got in and transferred as soon as I could, 2saabs, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:26:32
  • If so, prove them wrong by becomming successful, Schu, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:21:46
  • dumb question> but what is an ivy league school?, sab, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:08:50
    • Re: dumb question> but what is an ivy league school?, BobH, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:29:07
      • but it never says..., isobel, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 05:37:38
        • read a little further down..., sonique, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:12:50
        • but it's a geek athletic league, NateinAA, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:01:03
  • I've seen so many people disappointed..., turrbo , Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:58:38
    • Hey turrbo, TheKillerPenguin, Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:11:27
      • Hey KP, turrbo , Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:28:19
        • She went to high school with me, TheKillerPenguin, Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:35:42
          • Cool. (nm), turrbo , Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:37:37
            • by the way, TheKillerPenguin, Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:40:29
              • Yeah thanks KP...by the way..., turrbo , Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:15:39
                • It was a brilliant ploy..., TheKillerPenguin, Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:19:33
                  • Keep telling yourself that, sir..., turrbo , Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:36:12
  • My dad does harvard interviews, TheKillerPenguin, Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:43:34
  • Re: Did anybody else get an Ivy League rejection?, Scott Paterson , Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:34:52
    • My college roomate, Erik, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:33:55
      • I went to school with a lot of people like that, Adrian, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:40:41
  • Re: Did anybody else get an Ivy League rejection?, Adrian, Wed, 13 Apr 2005 21:29:28
    • Grad school is (arguably) more important, NateinAA, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:33:58
      • that was sort of my point, Adrian, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:00:47 <-- Viewing This Message
        • Ugh.. I know how that is, NateinAA, Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:41:19

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