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Real world safety Posted by Ari [Email]  (#2847) [Profile/Gallery]
(more from Ari) on Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:34:19
In Reply to: Back to the safety issue... see link:, aaron, Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:49:27 Members see ZERO ads on the bulletin boards and get more feature. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup |
Crash tests are good, but they are limited in capability. Front end crashes tests are only done with cars of like size (class). They don't crash test Chevy Suburbans into Hyundais. One reason is that the smaller car would be destroyed utterly, and everybody getting a rating of zero wouldn't be very informative.
Real-world data is useful. First, a single test has a lot of variables. Lots of data is better. Second, we drive cars in the real world, and what happens there is what matters.
Saab has won several awards, all based on real world death rates - deaths per 100,000 miles, for example. For example, Saab won the "Safest Car in Sweden" all the years from 1989 to 1994.
The 9000 was the "Safest In-Production Car," lowest passenger vehicle fatality rates (for cars in production) Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, Oct. 14, 1995 report (all Saab 9000)
A reference to the IIHS study on deaths per registered vehicles in 90-93 showed that the Saab 9000 was second, 0.14 deaths per 10,000 registered vehicles. #1 was the Volvo 240 (this was 90-93). The average was 1.1 deaths per 10,000 cars - almost 10 times that of the 9000.
http://www.iihs.org/research/hldi/composite_intro.html - In midsize cars, Saab 9000 was second from the top (beaten by the A6) in terms of injury. Not deaths, but injuries.
Apples and oranges, whatever. Saabs have excellent real world safety. Another example? In 1992, when I was trying to decide between a 9000 and a VW Jetta (don't ask), I checked the insurance costs. the insurance costs for the 9000 were half that of the Jetta, despite the fact that the Jetta was significantly less expensive. Now, the insurance company has to know something, and that something is that while the Saab may be more expensive to repair, that was vastly outweighed by the reduced cost of injury and fatalities. In an accident, the big cost to an insurance company is paying for injuries, not fixing the car.
Saabs are pretty darn safe. Even old, clunky ones.
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