Re: IIHS still recommends Saab models for safety - Saab General Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

General Bulletin Board
[Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main General Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Re: IIHS still recommends Saab models for safety
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Snowmobile [Email] (#686) [Profile/Gallery] (more from Snowmobile) on Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:39:07 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: IIHS still recommends Saab models for safety, andym, Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:02:00
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

iihs did not give the og9-5 a perfect rating in the SUV side impact because the head of a rear seat dummy touched the side of the rear c-pillar (relatively lightly iirc). afaik, this is the best result for a car without side curtain airbags, and it was the first car specifically designed to accommodate such an accident. Also, SAAB testing of the SUV/car mismatch predated IIHS testing of the same sort by about half a decade. Most other cars with side curtains pass this test but fail miserably without the side curtains. What happens if you get T-boned after your car turns off (eg if your ignition switch fails)? The folding B pillar of the SAAB is what makes the difference in that car and it doesn't care if the car is running or not.

Basically iihs goes on their data, but their data is somewhat incomplete, so it is a good start, but the best place to look is real world data, where, last I checked, SAABs still do significantly better than other makes in spite of the claims by many.

What is ironic here is that the article claims that there were only 3 choices under $5300 that were considered safe. One of those three is the SAAB 9-3, which in fact is the cheapest car in the survey at $4000! The og9-5 would easily be a 4th in that price range. Older Volvos (like V70 or S60) would also be a good cheap choice now.

When I look at the real world data, there is none for SAAB in the most recent data sets (not enough new SAABs on the road), but going back to 2003-2005... 9-5 was the safest midsize car luxury or otherwise, with a score of 58. Volvo V70 was the same. There were a handful of other larger cars and SUVs that were slightly better than 58. The 9-3 was pretty close at 69. Both the 9-5 and the 9-3 fell in the best category for injury (and theft, but not damage - the numbers I'm reporting are just injury though).

So, the real world data suggests that the 9-5 is probably actually safer than the 9-3... hmmm... maybe iihs is missing something in their recommendations?

I wouldn't think twice about putting my kids in an og9-5, and ahead of many vehicles on their list. I do agree that teens driving small cars (especially small powerful cars) is a recipe for trouble.

->Posting last edited on Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:40:52.


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!