Sorry but that's what your post reminds me of. lol "no no, don't sail off into the Horizon. You will fall off the edge of the earth! No one has gone past there before and returned!" ;-)

I *DO* know better that's why the APC is shit canned. I've got a lot of turbo cars under my belt, one put down 409 WHEEL HP on the STOCK non turbo 9.5:1 longblock with 24.5psi of boost, run for three race seasons and no signs of slowing down...the car has over 50K of this kind of abuse on it, over 150 drag passes, multiple "track days" on the road course, countless street beating etc etc and not even one melted spark plug. Not one broken part.

The other project was a 694 WHEEL HP Supra on the stock longblock with over 90K on it. Car is also on it's third season without one single engine problem. (The trans and diff was another story. :-D )

The APC is an antiquated device that sacrifices optimum tune for ulitmate saftey, even when the safety is not warranted. ( IE relying on an unpredictable piezzo electric knock sensor as mentioned by others in this thread etc)

Be sure to run good fuel, READ YOUR PLUGS, measure your EGT, feel and listen for detonation (Which you should not have as long as your car is tuned and fueled properly) and just drive it.

To say that without the APC the car will blow up is like saying the world is flat. Saab went overboard on the safety measures, and understanbly so considering they want to get over 200K out of these cars and have to take into account dumb people will put in 87 octane, run up a 5% grade, at 3000rpm, full throttle.

The APC is for them. :-) Best mod I have done to this Saab to date was to can it.

The manual boost contoller is actually *more* consistent than the APC. Sorry but it is. The boost goes to 16psi and in about 1-2 seconds settles in at 14psi everytime. Perfect for what I want. I don't have a "bleed" valve either, I have a check ball type that doesn't bleed off boost to fool the wastgate.

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• Bye bye APC...oh yes, this is how it's supposed to be!, Jay Hassinger, Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:18:59
  • Re: Bye bye APC...oh yes, this is how it's supposed to be!, Dean, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:23:19
    • Re: Bye bye APC...oh yes, this is how it's supposed to be!, Jay Hassinger, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:39:13
  • Re: Bye bye APC...oh yes, how it's supposed to be.... ?, Marko A, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:25:17
  • Re: Bye bye APC...oh yes, this is how it's supposed to be!, chrisx, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:39:34
    • Re: Bye bye APC...oh yes, this is how it's supposed to be!, Vince T, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:03:36
      • go to www.dawesdevices.com Warning about Electr. B/C, SaabLovin', Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:42:35
        • BS...Your getting half the story, Jay Hassinger, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:21:33
      • Re: Bye bye APC...oh yes, this is how it's supposed to be!, chrisx, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:26:15
        • In that case why remove the APC, Jay Hassinger, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:47:38
          • Re: In that case why remove the APC, chrisx, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:28:27
  • Yeah, the APC can be a PITA..., Jon , Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:35:20
  • just wondering...., Vince T, Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:14:53
    • Re: just wondering...., Jay Hassinger, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:45:12
    • MBC, Aerodriver4, Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:05:25
  • Modified APC can be a waste of money!, Keith S, Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:29:05
    • one idea, dave n, Sat, 29 Dec 2001 19:34:29
      • Knocking is bad, uhmkay, WASSAAB, Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:06:40
        • Re: Knocking is bad, uhmkay, Justin VanAbrahams , Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:43:17
          • Justin, I see what you are saying, but...., 85SLED, Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:06:45
            • Re: Justin, I see what you are saying, but...., Justin VanAbrahams , Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:54:46
              • I am sure it will work well for you..., 85SLED, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 06:55:51
                • LOL, Jay Hassinger, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 16:01:20
                • Some of you are smoking dope I think! and I...., SteveY, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:37:48
                  • And the world is flat, Jay Hassinger, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:34:19 <-- Viewing This Message
                    • Re: And the world is flat, 85SLED, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 00:15:32
                      • Ahhh, okay, Jay Hassinger, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:57:31
                        • If you want a dissertation, check out posts by Ari :), 85SLED, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:46:08
                        • Re: Well, before APC..., Eric van Spelde, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:43:41
                          • well put. i love my stage one SPG; i could do >, chrystobal, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:25:53
                      • One more thing...none of this matters because, 85SLED, Mon, 31 Dec 2001 00:43:53
                    • Re: And the world is flat, chrisx, Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:16:37

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