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does it have structural rust?
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Posted by James [Email] (more from James) on Fri, 6 Nov 2009 06:19:34 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: older car and safety, Jeff, Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:23:53
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There are a few weak points on the car wrt rust that should be monitored.

Other than that, a c900 is brilliant. The body structure is very solid + they do very well in all sorts of collisions. These cars (along with Volvos of the time) were the leaders in safety development. That said, newer Saabs + Volvos are safer than the c900, the big improvement imho was the 9-5 with the b pillar designed to fold down in an SUV side impact (that IIHS test was a result of Saab research crashing Landrovers into 9000's). 9-5 was the first for that + c900 doesn't do it. But overall, a c900 is a very safe car.

The others (especially the Americans + Asians) design cars to pass the tests needed for marketing purposes (5 stars). 9-3ss was designed to be a safe car + was the first car to get IIHS double best pick (on tests that started after the 9-3ss was released). Basically all other manufacturers had to redesign to pass the SUV side impact test. What they discovered is they can mostly pass the tests by throwing a bazillion airbags at the problem. Are they as safe as a Saab? In those specific tests, probably. In a more severe real life accident, not likely.

Hit a moose in a Mazda, Subaru, or Hyundai, and there's a good chance you might not live to see another one... A c900 is designed to take it.

Saab also does sequential testing (do a front end collision, then do a roll over test on the already crashed car) - anyone involved in reliability knows this is an order of magnitude harder to pass!

Safety goes beyond the IIHS tests: how the car drives, predictability, torque on demand, good brakes, sight lines, good head rests (even though SAHR is better, c900 headrests were designed to reduce whiplash), even ergonomics (seats, controls, lighting), all go into making a safe car. I've driven a lot of modern cars (Asian especially) that fail miserably in many of those areas even though they get 5 stars in IIHS. A c900 is well thought out from all those perspectives.

So, do I think a c900 is safe? if it's not a rust bucket, yup... I've got 2 of them...

James...

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