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1992 9kT NO START... is this TCS related? (long)
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Posted by Gavin (more from Gavin) on Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:51:31 Share Post by Email
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Hello all!

Thankfully this post is not regarding to my own personal vehicle, as I do not have TCS myself. I am posting this for a close friend, and it just so happens this car is stranded in front of my house. I am able to look it over and check your suggestions as they come to me on this post...

I don't know anything about the TCS system, other than it is expensive to fix.

Our main question here is this:

Would a malfunctioning TCS system component, cause the car to not even start?

The major syptom we are having here right now is that when you try and start the car, it sounds like it's almost about to catch and run, but it gets to about 100 rpms and quickly dies off.

We experienced absolutely NO limp-home-mode symptoms before this started occuring.

The Throttle body is brand new, however we're not sure about the various sensors related to the TCS system.


The reason why were are suspecting the TCS system here is almost 100% based on the activity of the TCS warning light.

We seem to recall that under normal operation, the light will come on, and quickly go out, when you insert the key and turn it to start... however without starting the engine...

now, in it's non starting condition, we turn the key to start, without cranking the engine, and the tcs light remains ON.

Cranking the engine now also the light remains on.

We understand this might be completely un-related to the no start condition, but knowing the history of TCS system problems we're worried it is the TCS.


One thing you definately must know about this problem, is that the power wire that comes off of the positive battery terminal and runs into a distribution block, was coming dissconnected from the distribution block side.

This happend 2 or 3 time WHILE the car was running and driving, causing of course the engine to stall, and requiring a coast to the shoulder of the road, and attempting to reconnect the wire at the dist. block.

This is actually the reason he came to my house, so we could fix this. All it involved was cutting the bad end of the wire off, and re-ending it with a ring terminal end so it can be screwed down on this distribution block securely.

While he was showing me the problem, the car was running, and the wire came completely out of the block, and stalled the engine.

After we fixed the dist. block... the car would no longer start!

Now, the simplest explaination being the easiest one, I originally thought that we must have distruebd something while we were working, but double and triple checking our work revealed that we had changed nothing, and the connection to the dist. block was much better now than it ever had been.

So... I'm also thinking that all of the sudden losses of electricity could have damaged something in the car... however no fuses were blown.

He sprayed starting fluid, and it didn't change the situation with starting at all.

Where do we start looking?

-gavin


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