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In Reply to: I agree Adrian, and would add (long), Michael [Profile/Gallery] , Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:45:08

I was going to stay quiet, but couldn't resist....
Ok, for one, SUV's are not designed for off-road. Just ask any four wheeler; independant suspensions, no locker, junk lsd's, no low range transfer cases, and the ground clearance of a Subaru doesn't make it off-road capable. They are designed to haul stuff, a lot of stuff; like say my 3 kids (in booster seats), my in-laws, myself and my wife out for dinner. Granted mostly it is just her driving it, but it does get used that way often.

As for the Stats on my wife's Acura MDX SUV, which seats 7, comparing it to a typical car; Honda Accord EX V-6 (taken from C&D Road Test Digest):
Handling: The MDX pulls 0.74 on the skidpad; the Honda Accord also has 0.74g
Braking: It is an issue for a heavy car, but the MDX stops 4 feet shorter than that same Accord.
Acceleration: MDX 0-60/.25mile = 8.4s/16.6, Accord EX v-6 =7.0/15.5
Emmisions: MDX = ULEV-2 Accord =ULEV-2
MPG: MDX = 17/23, Accord = 21/30

So basically, the MDX is every bit as good as the Accord and only sacrifices some gas mileage (4-7mpg)and acceleration in exchange for about 62 cubic feet (or 5 times more) of additional cargo volume. The SUV's you must be thinking of are older ones like my old Scout II.

I'm not sure where you got your "SUV driver as socially aggressive, self-centered, appearance concious, and enviromentally irresponsible" facts, but my guess would be from some sort of tree hugger pamphlet. Those statements come closer to matching me with my "look at me" Monte Carlo Yellow Viggen.....

Later,
Chris Fisher

Oh, and BTW the BMW X5 will out accelerate, corner and stop better than my Viggen. Welcome to the future......

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• If people complain about an SUV, why don't they...., Richard P., Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:45:23
  • SUV's have an emissions rating of a truck, Terry G-B, Mon, 25 Nov 2002 12:11:00
    • But some SUVs have ULEV rating...in fact most do don't., Richard P., Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:16:41
  • SUVs, Minivans, etc. (longish..), Noel, Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:17:12
  • Ride height difference is the biggest problem by far, Vlad, Sun, 24 Nov 2002 23:32:18
  • but none of those cars can drive over yours. nm, Chris., Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:05:26
    • Over or under, 2 tons is 2 tons...., Richard P., Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:28:38
      • I'd rather be hit by 2 tons at the same height than at, JustinB, Sun, 24 Nov 2002 12:24:51
        • I wasn't going to butt in, but..., MisplacedYankee , Sun, 24 Nov 2002 18:29:06
          • I would still rather be hit by an M5 than something..., Chris., Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:43:07
  • I hate that they are just giant slot cars, saw, Sat, 23 Nov 2002 01:24:18
  • Re: If people complain about an SUV, why don't they...., Petteri, Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:02:44
    • Image/Usefulness, Erik, Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:00:19
      • I think you should have the right to buy..., Richard P., Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:34:22
        • Re: I think you should have the right to buy..., Erik, Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:09:42
          • My comments were not directed toward you..., Richard P., Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:35:11
  • It's all in the numbers, CWilson, Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:32:22
    • This is why people fly into our buildings., Chris., Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:50:25
      • Re: This is why people fly into our buildings., Tom in ATL, Mon, 25 Nov 2002 16:55:28
  • Personally..., Adrian, Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:27:55
    • Seems like we all agree that..., Noel, Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:27:01
    • CFishgo is right...(longish), Noel, Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:21:19
      • Mark and CFishgo (long), Michael , Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:08:52
        • Re: Mark and CFishgo (long), CFishgo, Tue, 26 Nov 2002 15:37:56
    • I agree Adrian, and would add (long), Michael , Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:45:08
      • Get your facts right! (long), CFishgo, Tue, 26 Nov 2002 02:22:30 <-- Viewing This Message
        • You are right, the SUV can serve a purpose., Terraplanem, Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:06:27
          • A long way, CFishgo, Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:23:40
    • SUV insanity/disregard for others, Mark, Sun, 24 Nov 2002 22:25:42
    • What I would not do for a RS4,,, hmmmm.... nm, Chris., Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:08:45
    • I was going to post, then read Adrian's >, ChipJ, Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:15:02

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