Yikes!

Come on folks! Give the guys at Saab a chance!! Any car will grow on you with time, and GM has spent tons of money improving this platform. I used to hate the new A4, but the more I see it, the more it grows on me. Change is a scary thing, but we must all adapt! (Though I can't say the same for the new BMW 7 Series though...it's still frightening). You MUST drive it before you can pass judgement...I thought the same thing about the Acura Integra and Honda S2000, for example. One drive, and my outlook changed.

I also converted EVERY car enthusiast friend of mine once they drove my restored Peugeot 405 Mi16 (a total Euro sleeper sedan that was very rare here)...suddenly, they stopped laughing at me once they accelerated to 7000 rpm and powered through their first corner. Amazing how quickly perceptions change...

If you read any European car magazine, you'll see that the new Opel/Vauxhall Vectra has now become the leader in its category in rigidity and ride/handling, beating the Ford Mondeo and Peugeot 406, the two standards in the Euro class. Personally, considering all the bitching I heard about the old Opel/Vauxhall Vectra from the European press, it was STILL a hell of a lot better than just about every GM car that we get here. Only the Catera had any kind of driver appeal...and gee, it's really an Opel/Vauxhall Omega. I've driven all these cars in Europe, and the Catera here (sorry Pontiac and Caddy STS), and I think that this newly upgraded Saab will have a real winner here. Remember, this car has to appeal to a mass European audience too in the class, and the A4, 3 Series and M-B C Class are all sedans and wagons.

I love my 5 door Viggen, but we all admit the chassis can't handle the power. I'm sure this new car with AWD in Aero form will be a total winner.
Saab has kept certain interior nuances very much the same, and I think the dash looks better than the new 3 Series, and a lot more interesting than the C-Class Mercedes.

I'll take an AWD Aero 9-3 wagon...5 doors, power, no torque steer and still the Saabness that I've grown to love.

Just my thoughts...

Cheers,
Paul H.
'00 Viggen 5 dr

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• Dissapointed, to say the least..., Alan, Mon, 13 May 2002 17:34:33
  • Re: Audi & BMW performance not so great, Michael O'Sullivan, Tue, 14 May 2002 10:03:24
  • Extremely disappointed, dw, Tue, 14 May 2002 07:39:03
  • There will be a performance version., Coolknight, Tue, 14 May 2002 03:20:46
  • sorry to break it to you, but..., Ryan , Tue, 14 May 2002 02:14:56
  • The front looks like a Saturn. Don't you think?, Ed C, Mon, 13 May 2002 23:57:13
    • The back does too! n/m, Bob M, Tue, 14 May 2002 07:34:26
      • Re: The back is a big improvement, No.9, Tue, 14 May 2002 20:57:44
    • Disagree - looks just like a 9-3... very nice., Scott Paterson , Tue, 14 May 2002 01:48:27
    • UH NO!!! Suggest you take another look.......... n/m, Paul , Tue, 14 May 2002 00:11:48
  • Interior...ho.hum.GM? Wheels, who cares?, Mike Lynch , Mon, 13 May 2002 23:34:14
  • Don't criticize it until you DRIVE it!!, Paul H, Mon, 13 May 2002 22:03:05 <-- Viewing This Message
  • That new cupholder is so cool !! n/m, Paul , Mon, 13 May 2002 19:52:02
  • maybe not so slow, Steve, Mon, 13 May 2002 19:51:31
  • I think it looks Awesome!!!, S-Works, Mon, 13 May 2002 19:16:45
    • Re: I think it looks Awesome!!!, 9-5 GUY, Mon, 13 May 2002 20:58:39
      • Re: I think it looks Awesome!!!, 9-5 GUY, Mon, 13 May 2002 21:20:38
      • Shove it in their? . . . OH! 8^) n/m, jc, Mon, 13 May 2002 21:16:44
  • BTW: Have you all forgotten about Hirsch`??, AdamB , Mon, 13 May 2002 18:35:03
    • Oh great, so I could end up spending $ that I could use, AVi, Mon, 13 May 2002 18:44:37
      • Re: Oh great, so I could end up spending $ that I could use, sully, Tue, 14 May 2002 13:53:48
      • Re: Oh great, so I could end up spending $ that I could use, Mark, Mon, 13 May 2002 21:25:34
      • What are you talking about??, AdamB , Mon, 13 May 2002 18:55:02
        • I dont think you understand me (long), AVi, Mon, 13 May 2002 19:05:29
          • Also, remember that Hirsch is not really available, AVi, Mon, 13 May 2002 19:16:06
            • It should be when they are launched in the US, AdamB , Mon, 13 May 2002 19:20:20
              • I really hope you're right on all acounts (n/m), AVi, Mon, 13 May 2002 19:24:22
          • It's because they don't know better...., AdamB , Mon, 13 May 2002 19:12:00
  • Re: Dissapointed, to say the least..., Bruce, Mon, 13 May 2002 17:50:14
  • Re: Dissapointed, to say the least..., jc, Mon, 13 May 2002 17:47:49
    • A new chasis goes without saying..., Alan, Mon, 13 May 2002 17:59:54
  • Why can't you understand, AdamB , Mon, 13 May 2002 17:47:10
    • Yes, but why holding out power?, Tim, Mon, 13 May 2002 18:18:05
    • I hope so...but have not seen press on it yet..., Alan, Mon, 13 May 2002 17:58:11
      • Several recent interviews of SAAB bosses, Ian Glenday , Mon, 13 May 2002 21:37:27
      • neither have I..., Scott Paterson , Mon, 13 May 2002 18:24:44
        • Well if you worked for SAAB..., Mark, Mon, 13 May 2002 21:24:03
          • Re: Well if you worked for SAAB..., floppymoose, Tue, 14 May 2002 23:14:42
          • Mark.... can you..., Scott Paterson , Tue, 14 May 2002 01:50:22
            • Re: Mark.... can you... ( sure can) SAAB 9-7 dropped!, Mark, Tue, 14 May 2002 10:51:55
        • It's not official yet..., AdamB , Mon, 13 May 2002 18:33:36

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