On Snobbery and 9 reasons why Saab deserves GM (long) - Saab General Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

General Bulletin Board
[Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main General Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
On Snobbery and 9 reasons why Saab deserves GM (long)
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Dinger [Email] (more from Dinger) on Thu, 1 May 2003 13:04:02 Share Post by Email
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

The V4 was a Ford motor. The first L4’s where designed by Triumph. The 9000 shares a platform with the Alfa 164. Any notion that Saab was a pure blooded unicorn before the NG900 is in compete opposition to historical facts. You can argue degrees of taint but claims that the lights when out in ’94 are silly.

But yet people say this all the time.

There are many on this board that love their NG900’s, their 9-5’s and their 9-3’s. I suspect there will be many coming that will love their 9-3SS’s. However at the same time there are many others that act as though it’s common knowledge that all the GM-ified Saabs are the equivalent to an ’83 Escort with a blown head gasket. If all the charges leveled at the GM-Saabs on this board are true then the NG900, 9-3, 9-5 and 9-3SS owners must be daft. But I don’t think that’s the case. I say something else at work here.


Here we have the example of Tommy’s Pizza. Been making pizza the same way with a dark thick Chicago-esque sauce for 14 years. Only place in town with sauce like that. Bob has been eat, and loving, Tommy’s since he moved to town 10 years ago. Then one day Tommy takes a trip to Naples and falls in love with the lighter fresh tomato taste of the marinara style of pizza. Once back at home Tommy replaces the hearty Chicago style with the lighter Neopolitan style. Bob’s reaction? Now he hates Tommy’s pizza. Tommy’s sold out. Tommy is this, Tommy is that. Why? Is Tommy’s pizza now bad? Maybe, maybe not. What has Bob angry is that he viewed him self to be above those that didn’t share his love of the thick sauce. Now with the thick sauce gone Bob feels like he has been dragged down to the lower classes of pizza eaters.

While not an air tight analogy I think the point is obvious. It’s snobbery, plain and simple. I feel many this board would rather see Saab die off that be dirtied by any platform sharing. No one on this board has any idea what the 9-2 WILL be when it goes on sale and yet it’s being ripped to shreds as the car that will kill Saab. It might be junk or it might be great, it matters not as their biggest nightmare is to boastfully tell someone, “I drive a Saab” only to have them respond back, “Aren’t those made by Subaru?”. That’s their fear and this fear comes out as anti-GM hate in many posts on this board. If Saab had been bought by Ford or Toyota or whoever they be scream at them. Better to have just let it die in the 90’s, and I have seen that said here on this very board before.

There’s nothing that can be done to reason with the snobs. With those who sit in traffic and feel a glow that they and only they are intelligent enough to seen the greatness of the C900 or whatever and be driving one, even though at the same time most of the others are on road couldn’t care less. They will post how GM has destroyed Saab’s reputation, product, reliability, etc. but what really was destroyed was their ability to feel superior to the guy at the light in a Saturn.

I wish they could be happy with the car they have that creates such strong feelings in them even if that car is no longer made. After all a Saab with proper maintenance might just outlast them, which is more than can be said for that thick sauce pizza Bob longs after.

This is of course just my opinion.

Saab : A history of selling out.

·Dropping the 2-stroke motor in favor of the mainstream 4-stroke design.

·Dropping the V4 for a more conventional inline design

·Moving away from the bubble shapes to the more traditional car look of the 99. Why? To make more money.

·Ruining the lines of the 99 to offer the Combi-Coupe in a blatant attempt to increase sales by appealing to those who wish for more versatile vehicles.

·Trying to make a little bank off the performance buyers by moving away from their history of Naturally Aspirated engines to offer a turbo.

·Moving away from their economy car roots by offering such unless luxuries as leather seats, power windows, power sunroofs, etc.

·Moving away from a strict safety stance to offer unsafe cars with no rollover protection at the behest of US dealers simply wanting to cash in on the rebirth of the convertible in the 80’s

·Sharing a platform with an outside company in a shameless attempt to both increase sales and save on development costs.

·Actually selling the company to GM in an effort to keep Saab from going under and thereby keep their jobs.


Why if you really think about it GM is in fact doing a very good job of maintaining Saab’s history of selling out to the mainstream to make a quick buck and since all Saab seems concerned with is making money then they deserve to be a GM division with all the Chevy truck based money making platforms that go along with it.


... well I feel better now ;)

Dinger
86 900T 251k
86 SPG 166k


posted by 12.16.16...


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!