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I think they were both released in 1987. We didn't get the 164 until 1991 in the States; not sure when the 405 arrived.
All this talk of Alfa & Peugeots has made me think of how dull the new car market here in the States is! Just thumbing through the UK magazine CAR makes me think of all the cars we are deprived of (or saved from based on your POV!)
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