follow-up on saw's post about source of gasoline - Saab General Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

General Bulletin Board
[Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main General Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
follow-up on saw's post about source of gasoline
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by mike-p. (more from mike-p.) on Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:55:12 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: Best brand of gas, saw, Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:33:03
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

saw comments on the source of gas. smk comments on which companies drill in which parts of the world. I'm going to comment about a tiny part of the US as insight to how the world of oil runs....

Washington State has 5 oil refineries, 4 big ones and 1 small one. They are
BP in Cherry Point near Ferndale (near Canada), biggest refinery: supplies Arco.
ConocoPhilips in Ferndale: supplies 76
Shell Anacortes (north of Seattle): source of Shell
Tesoro Anacortes: supplies Tesoro and others
US Oil in Tacoma (about 1/5 the size of the others): supplies independents

Much (around 74%) of the oil to these refineries come from Alaska. Most/all of them can't handle the heavier oil from other parts of the world so they handle lighter Alaskan oil but the BP refinery has some capacity for heavier, non-Alaskan oil.

Alaskan oil production is down about half from the peak. If ANWR were ever opened, it could supply Washington state refineries.

The refineries supply nearly all (reportedly 89% of WA state and a even higher percentage in Western WA) of Washington state and much (about 70%) of Oregon's needs. Congress butted in and passed a law thanks to a now dead WA senator prohibiting expansion of refineries beyond WA state needs (that tends to limit refinery capacity and can only increase prices).

Chevron is a major retail seller of gasoline. It obviously buys someone else's gas (maybe Tesoro????) but then adds its Techron to it.

There's no pipeline to Western WA so it can't get gasoline from the East Coast and Gulf Coast in a reasonable way. There is a Chevron pipeline to Spokane from Idaho.

So if you buy gasoline in the Seattle area, it's probably from Alaska. It would be even more likely to be so if you buy non-ARCO (BP) gas. Middle East, Mexican, and Venezuelan crude oil probably stays somewhere east of the Rocky Mountains.

Just some trivia that I hope a few enjoy reading. I'm not from Washington state but I once bought gas at a Tesoro station while on vacation.




posted by 205.188.11...


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!