I had a co-worker try to tell me today that his friend's Civic was impressive because it could do a whopping 112mph with an amazing three people in it! No kidding. Knowing what was coming, I asked him where this performance came from. He told me that it had intake/headers/exhaust, and a spoiler. I work at a golf course, and we were both next to a tee, and I picked up a bench and said "Do you think my Saab or any other car would go faster if I plopped a fiberglass version of THIS on the trunk?" to which his answer was no. "Well there ya go then, a spoiler is not a performance mod, it's a rice mod." And the argument began... some interesting points made were that this kid's exhaust adds 30hp. (that's if you put the accompanying sticker on too). I explained that factory tuners know the best about the pulse characteristics of the engine's exhaust flow because they're the ones that designed it, and that, for example, the dealer accessory/option Sport Exhaust on my SPG (okay, it has a gutted cat, my bad) adds a total of seven horsepower according to Saab literature! It's all for the sound, I told him. I then blew to bits his theory of the intake adding more than 2hp because dryer vent is actually more restrictive than stock, etc. and allowed 10hp for the header. There's 19hp.

I then told him that my Saab would easily be able to achieve 130 with a washing machine and three people in it by virtue of the fact that it has two things a Honda doesn't: cargo space, and power.

Guess who bought a Saab this afternoon - my co-worker. He's now the proud owner of a '87 900T. He even told me that it obviously has way more balls than this Honda, and handles much better to boot.

The problem with the ricer fad is that they know NOTHING about how engines/cars work (the 95% of them) and actually think that dryer vent will make them go faster. Pretty scary, huh?

• Fast and Furious movie. 10 second car. Is that true?, k from Seattle, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:07:31
  • Modern muscle cars, Scott K., Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:30:59
  • Isn't there, ..., GM, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:37:16
  • 8.49 sec at 171 mph., pmr, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:54:27
  • Extreme Motorsports has a sub 10sec Talon, Ckpaden, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:59:03
  • Ten sec. ¼'s aren't uncommon..., brian@saabcenter.com, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:52:36
    • Don't you have a supercharged miata?, Rookie, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:34:38
      • It's turbo-charged. Great easy to do (or have done) set-up., brian@saabcenter.com, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:49:31
    • They snap their axles all the time with all of the torque, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:00:26
    • Isn't kinda fun seeing the FWD Hondas Take in Big Blocks n/m, Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:55:26
  • I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Rookie, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:35:33
    • Why would you spend $10,000 to upgrade a Civic?, Schu, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:44:27
      • Why would you spend money to upgrade a Saab?, Mike 87 900s, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:44:38
    • Wow...but he's still driving a Honda. n/m, Richard P., Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:02:52
    • Rice isn't about real performance, its about looks, Mike, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:06:28
    • Jackson Racing SC is not that good, nickR, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:36:25
      • How much HP does a turboed-Civic usually push? n/m, Ryan , Tue, 26 Jun 2001 04:10:01
        • All depends, nickR, Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:38:56
    • uhh....but it is still a civic...which is NOT an automobile...., chrisx, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:16:02
    • Let's see - heavily modified vs. stock..., saabaru, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:15:30
    • Slow down Rook, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:54:57
      • You are SO totally right!, bazil burns, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:15:36 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Hey..., Jay S, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:03:07
        • rear spoiler (wing) and it was in a junkyard for $50!!!, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:28:16
    • We're on the same page., Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:48:39
    • Re: I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:44:41
      • Re: I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Jay S., Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:58:53
        • I hear ya.., Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:42:06
        • The heart of the problem is..., Chad, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:05:02
    • Slight correction...., Jeff Newton, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:42:33
      • Re: Slight correction...., Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:45:51
    • You have described about .01% of the riceboy population!, Jeff Cunningham, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:40:02
      • Exactly...., AdamB , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:26:11
  • Yup its true., Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:20:38
    • Correct, never on the street, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:30:27

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