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Thought I'd put my two cents worth in on them, now that I've got about 10k miles on mine...

I think these tires may just be a bit too much for the stock suspension, at least the softer stock suspension on the earlier models (have them on our 99 2.3LPT wagon).... I think the sidewall stiffness is noticeable greater than the Michelins, and the the impact on the ride has been much more severe than I would ever have guessed...it's become quite wobbly...

Also, after 10k miles the tread noise has increased a lot -- the car sounds like an SUV with big assed "mudders" on it on the highway (the concrete highways here in southern california are really noisy with these tires).

Having said all that, the grip is amazing, the turn-in and steering response is MUCH better than those crappy michelins... I think the wet is a lot better too, but we've not had enough rain to really be sure...

So when these wear out (I think I'll get another 5k miles out of them), I'll be looking for something else...... If I had an aero, I'd probably stick with the S-03's, but with this car, and its soft suspension, I"m going to be looking for something else...

Just wish that the new Yoko AVS ES100s were in the right size, they look like a great compromise

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• Allright please don't kill me, Ed NC, Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:18:03
  • Happy with Dunlop SP Sport A2's in Maine. n/m, vsfoxe , Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:34:15
  • Re: Allright please don't kill me, JA, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:00:19
  • Thanks everyone, Ed NC, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:02:03
    • I'm glad that Saab is getting rid of Michelins., J, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:45:52
      • Enter 405 when page complains. n/m, J, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:47:18
    • a budget choice, Jason 0W-40, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:55:14
      • Re: Jason = psychic, Ed NC, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:40:00
        • heheh!, Jason 0W-40, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:20:29
  • I've been very pleased with Yoko Avid V4's n/m, JimD , Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:58:51
  • Toyo, hdm, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:42:07
    • Re: Toyo, jokikeke, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:21:55
      • Re: snows up front in the winter, hdm, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:13:28
        • Front or rear?, bRAD, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:20:52
          • Front only is not recommended: my experience -, vsfoxe , Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:26:38
            • Re: Front only is not recommended: my experience -, hdm, Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:43:05
              • Snows only in the front is a bad thing., 2Slow, Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:18:21
                • what causes the under/over steer?, hdm, Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:00:49
    • Re: Toyo, LHD, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 08:00:46
  • Well, you said you weren't getting S-03's, but...(long), Pat Hurley, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:07:24 <-- Viewing This Message
    • 15k on one set of tires..., Hammer, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:53:58
      • Ain't that nice -- thought i'd get a bit more out of, Pat Hurley, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:15:55
    • how about a suspension work-over? :), turbo5spd, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:46:11
      • Sorry, never answered your question - 16s, Pat Hurley, Wed, 12 Mar 2003 19:16:15
      • No work-over, wife is main driver, Pat Hurley, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:14:23
  • Re: Allright please don't kill me, Saabotage, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 01:01:53
  • Yokos are a good choice, Bill S., Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:44:29
  • I Went with the Kumhos, V-rated, excellent choice...n/m, megajeff, Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:37:14
    • Re: I Went with the Kumhos - which type, please ? n/m, technologist, Tue, 11 Mar 2003 15:40:12
  • Dunlop SP Sport 5000 n/m, Eli5, Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:30:32
    • I 2nd Dunlop SP Sport 5000, can't ...., TKC, Mon, 10 Mar 2003 09:10:08
  • Re: Allright please don't kill me, Scott Paterson , Sun, 9 Mar 2003 22:26:37
    • bridgestones for grip, but wear fast i believe N/M, Irfan, Sun, 9 Mar 2003 23:33:48

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