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Thank you Anders. I had seen you had an earlier post about this.
Page 229 in my manual (that comes with car) says 4.1 for 4-cyl and 4.6 for 6-cyl. It says “(on changing)” which is a bit cryptic - meaning I guess that the capacity is a bit more but they are saying “this is what it will take”(?). I don’t see 5.7 coming into it at all.
I hadn’t mentioned that I had taken my own oil so them charging for more oil wasn’t a potential issue.
Since I’d had the talk with them about the previous overfill, they knew I would check – when I went to pick it up, at the counter I overheard the boss talking to the tech in the shop and the tech was telling the boss that he and I had the talk about overfill, and 4 quarts wasn’t enough, he used closer to 5, but, he had checked the level and it was at the right level. The boss came out and said “did you hear us talking?” and I said yes and he said it’s funny because I remember it being 4 quarts as well (they do German cars, and Volvo and Saab). At any rate, I’d have to say they took adequate care and didn’t just throw in 5.7 quarts like the computer says. Someone should maybe contact those computer guys because like you said no Saab engine ever took 5.7 quarts. I didn’t have my book with me at the time, so, I can show him this morning what it says just for S&G. All that said, it needs to be not underfilled and not overfilled. Speaking of which, how you measure it can make a difference. If you just stick it in and out you’ll get a low reading. I used to put it in and push it down as far as it goes (in other words compress the spring). This recent guy says put it in but only push it as far down as needed so it can be turned a bit. This would give you a reading in between. What method do you use? You could end up with it reading high or low by as much as maybe a quarter inch on the indicator. Probably the most important is be consistent in how you measure it. To me, it should sit in the middle or upper range of the flat part of the indicator. It should not go below the flat part or much up on the upper shoulder (just like you said!). I guess it would be useful to know, if you do, what’s the difference between the upper and lower bound of the flat part of the indicator? A quart, pint?
It’s interesting you said they eat oil. Why is that, is it just the nature of the engine, or the turbo? They said I had slight oil leaks (seeing a bit of oil) but, I never have even so much as one drop of oil on the garage floor and it parks there every single day in the same place. I guess they are just saying it’s not completely perfect.
Yes, it should always be changed hot. It was. I had an appointment and they actually stuck to it. I just found this place even though amazingly I drive by it every day on the way to work and in fact can walk to work from there (3 blocks) so if it works out that would be good. There seems to be a lack of Saab people here now (the good guy moved) and I even have people (with Saabs) ask me on the street where they can take their car to get decent work done.
Thank you for your response. Next time I’m taking a 5-quart Mobil1, taking out a half quart, and just telling them “put it all in and check it after, if it’s a tad low, that’s fine, I’ll top it off at home.” That should be consistent with the amount you use and should make life easier all around. It’s much easier to add a bit than it is to take it out. I used to do all this stuff myself but with the Aero being so low and the jack points such that I can’t get the jack stands and jack in there at the same time, I don’t feel safe doing it. I know other guys do it, but I’m just not comfortable about it. I need ramps or something I guess. It’s funny as you get older you get more careful. You’d think logically it would be the reverse since you’ve usually got more (time) to lose when you’re young. I guess that happens when you realize that time is irreplaceable and finite.
Jim
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