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Posted by Bill Davies [Email] (more from Bill Davies) on Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:04:16 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Model differences?, buckmath, Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:21:03
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OK Buck - some things may differ according to market (I'm in Europe) but here goes - forgive me if you know all or most of this already!

The Aero is the Aero, introduced mid-1993 with a 225bhp engine (manual version) using a bigger Mitsubishi TD04 turbo and different software. Automatic Aeros have exactly the same engine/software spec as a full-turbo CSE, with 200 bhp. Take a look at Rob Alimi's Aero site for more info.

Aero also have a body kit, slightly lower/stiffer suspension, 16" three-spoke wheels and swanky full-leather seats with big bolsters and so forth.

CSE and CS are more like trim designations in European markets, withe any engine in any version. But as I understand it (others please chime in) when looking at later cars, a US spec CSE will have a 200bhp full turbo engine and a CS a low-pressure turbo engine with 170 bhp. The software for the 200bhp engine restricts torque (but not power) when fitted to an automatic car. CS and CSE share the same bodywork, without the body kit, though things like spoilers, wheels, and extras such as sunroof or upholstery will mean cars differ somewhat.

While there may well have been a CS Super I've never met one. Around 1993 there was a Turbo S in some markets, not always marked as such but typically with Aero suspension and wheels, a sports exhaust and leather with suede inserts. I had one - interestingly it was officially registered as an Aero, by Saab themselves.

The Anniversary is a commemorative model CS(E) with the Aero body kit, special two-tone leather upholstery on the standard seats, a leather & wood steering wheel and special alloys. In the UK these are 8-spoke Minilite-style 15" but people swear US ones came with the 16" Aero alloys and Aero suspension, and they are more likely to know than I am! They were 1997 model year but you might find one from 1996.

Griffens were all CD four-doors, not CS/CSE hatchbacks, and I gather were a 400-car series with numbered dash plaques. They are supposed to be green with all the extras known to man, including trim options like walnut door cappings as standard. Over here you see Griffens in other colours and if there were only 400 built, I can only say they seem to have generated a lot of look-alikes.

In 1998 there were no Aeros but a manual CSE was available with the 225bhp Aero engine, and these are also sought after.

It is easy enough to turn a low-pressure turbo engine into a full-pressure one, and to give a 200bhp engine extra horses (a decent software upgrade alone would deliver 240 bhp). Likewise, the Aero suspension is still available as a kit and there are lots of wheels out there.

Finally, the GM non-turbo 3-litre V6 engine found its way into the CSE but is not particularly loved. Although it is supposed to produce 210 bhp it's a different animal from the four-pot 2.3 and apparently there are reliability issues, don't know enough about that to say more.

Hope some of this helps. Take a look at the link!

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