The only Audis I would recommend are the
A8 with the 4.2L V8 engine
A6 with the 4.2L V8 or 2.8L V6 engine
A4 with the 2.8L V6
and if you desire a reliable AWD car that has an engine
that will run many miles, one of these will be fine.

The 1.8L Turbo will be worn after 60'000 miles, and after
twice that you can junk it. It is not an engine that
was designed to last many miles.

The 2.7L Twin Turbo... well 2x Turbo = Double Trouble, the
S4 that uses that engine is great fun if you leave it stock
and if you have another car for the days it won't work...

The brand new 3.0L engine for the A4... 30 valves, is a disaster...
most of them deliver no more power then the 2.8L engine and many
more cook em self to dead due to a bad cooling system. It will
take Audi another 2 years to get it right, until then I would not
wish to own a car with that engine. It comes in the brand new A4.

From a safety aspect only the new shape A4 and the A8 are worth their
money. The Old A4 (like S4 shape) and the A6 offer both less safety then
the 9-3 and the 9-5.

The current 9-3 is a good car but in its last year. There is a new 9-3
on the way. Thus I would at best lease one for 2 years, not buy one.
The Viggen is the most fun...

The current 9-5 just got better, leasing one for 4 years might be
a good idea. If you buy, you need to keep it for around 6-7 years
to avoid the early depreciation of the car.

In snow any SAAB will do fine if you put on Winter tires, of course
an AWD car with winter tires will do better.

One more thing... you can get 9-5 with ECU upgrades and warranty
that pop out up to 300Hp or more... see performance for more info.

One last thing, while AUDI makes a lot of AWD cars... they don't make
the best AWD cars when it comes to handling. When you compare and AWD
Audi to some other AWD cars, the AUDIS don't fare so well. AUDI saves
big bucks by using only 1 self locking diff or through the use of Haldex,
AUDIs with 2 or 3 self locking diffs is a NO NO.

Regards,
Coolknight

posted by 212.77.4...

THE AWD car AUDI can't match...

• saab v. audi, mike rosenberger, Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:26:36
  • 30+mpg, if it matters, claude, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 23:31:19
  • Re: saab v. audi, David Huang, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:24:35
  • Comes down to AWD or no AWD, Coolknight, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:39:59 <-- Viewing This Message
    • Coolknight hates Audis, always has always will, nickR, Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:04:14
    • Re: Comes down to AWD or no AWD, cobalt, Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:17:40
      • Re: Empiricism as basis for Opinion-This aint the SEC!!, Isayeret, Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:49:24
    • Re: Comes down to AWD or no AWD, Nathan Work, Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:58:44
      • Until you reach full boost., Coolknight, Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:31:14
    • what??, nickR, Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:05:50
      • The 1,8 is junk, AdamB , Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:52:32
        • I cant believe that, nickR, Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:52:19
    • 1.8T engine -- a gem, Dan Wyman, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:07:51
    • With the quality of many Audi engines..., Neal, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:44:59
      • Re: With the quality of many Audi engines..., John N., Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:56:31
        • our Passat has been better than our SAAB, nickR, Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:12:01
          • Re: MY SAABs are Better than any VOLKSWAGON, Isayeret, Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:59:34
            • I couldnt disagree more, nickR, Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:10:30
  • Re: saab v. audi, JEH, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:04:45
  • Audi 1.8T vs Saab 93 2.0T..., Joe , Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:13:32
  • Re: saab v. audi, COBALT, Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:56:05
    • S4 a lot more powerful than a Viggen?, Bob M, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:01:53
      • LOL things look smaller in my rearview mirrow., ckpaden, Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:10:34
        • AUDI VS SAAB, cobalt, Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:06:41
          • Re: AUDI VS SAAB, ckpaden, Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:18:54
      • Re: S4 a lot more powerful than a Viggen?, cobalt, Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:23:36
    • Re: saab v. audi, Neal, Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:39:25
  • Re: saab v. audi, Macanon, Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:14:26
  • Re:saab v audi(aka Volkswagen with an attitude problem), Paul , Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:53:40
  • Re: saab v. audi, saw, Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:36:16
  • Re: saab v. audi, Tyler, Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:50:38

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