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and admiring GM as a car producer would be rational? I've despised this company long before their actions toward SAAB. I remember driving some automatic Cavelier as a kid and it being the most depressing automotive experience of my life. I would not care for cars had there only been GM products. Then I witnessed the actual GM corporate culture which is truly one of arrogance and ignorance... this impression of the company isn't hype! The nonsense of GM "saving" SAAB is bs, because one fails to take into account that another company could have bought them out (anyone!). Once they were brought into GM the future was going to be bad news. You ever wonder why Opel, for decades (!) has been considered Europe's most mundane brand, and now are in the verge of death? If you buy into the "cost of labor" nonsense we heard about Sweden, move along...
Regarding Hyundai/Kia, sure their technology has improved over twenty years, whose hasn't? The thing again is the culture and mentality. You think they care about driver's anymore than GM? Their lack if shame in copying puts then one level below GM even... Like them though? Buy em! :)
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Posts in this Thread:
- 2011 KIA Optima, 9-3Talladega, Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:54:20
- The nail that sticks up, No Snaab, Sat, 31 Dec 2011 06:58:49
- Tell ya what, Ace..., Noel, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:10:08
- Re: 2011 KIA Optima, kkelley, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:44:41
- 2012 KIA Optima?, RMinNJ, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:31:00
- rust!, James, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 18:02:41
- Car reviews, nwas, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 08:07:29
- He is pontificating, but, Mike Johnson, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:17:46
- you just fukia self nm, Brian in MA, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:23:31
- Be careful not getting hit by any vehicle in that!, AdamB , Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:23:25
- Re: 2011 KIA Optima, bic, Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:49:24
- noKia and noHyundai, ryan , Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:26:54
- Hyundai ?what a pile o crap.., pushrodsaab, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:08:32
- Re: Hyundai ?what a pile o crap.., George K, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:26:08
- GM, ryan , Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:52:37 <-- Viewing This Message
- Re: GM, George K, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 12:56:37
- I think things have changed a bit in the last 20 years, nwas, Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:45:48
- Don't throw stones re: rust, Steve T., Fri, 30 Dec 2011 07:11:35
- WTF?, turrbo , Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:54:14
- Re: 2011 KIA Optima, EGD , Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:38:52
- I think he is joking, Tim, Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:07:23
- Good luck n/m, AdamSAAB2kAero , Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:58:59
- Good riddance (-), peter , Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:49:27
- 2012 TOYOTA Camry, Tulsaab , Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:21:44
- Re: 2011 KIA Optima, TML , Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:04:42
- I have ZERO sympathy for ANYONE who, AeroEd, Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:54:34
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