A few answers. - Saab 9000 Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

9000 Bulletin Board
1985-1998 [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main 9000 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
A few answers.
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Aaron Gilbert [Email] (more from Aaron Gilbert) on Fri, 28 Feb 2003 15:32:16 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Attn: Aaron, Engine whine (long)+, roman, Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:20:38
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

First a question though - are you actually getting whine? I didn't see it in your post other than the header. If you are getting whine, and you have run your power and ground like I have, down opposite sides of the car, keeping them as far apart as possible, then next I'd check your grounds. You want all your amps to ground at the same location, and ideally your head unit too, but I have found that to not have an effect, in my car. Also make sure you have scraped all the paint off your grounding point. Or, what you can do is use the rear seat belt anchor bolt as a ground, you'll just need a fairly large ring terminal - I recommend something that won't corrode, like gold or nickel plating. That's where my amps are grounded.

When you say you ran the power wire under the console, are you talking center console? I'd avoid that at all costs, especially since your amps are in the trunk. Run it all the way down the left side door sill, starting at the very front of the driver footwell. Don't come out of there until you get to the middle of the rear seat. Run your RCA cables behind the deck, and then along the front edge of the front right footwell before going into the door sill, but don't run them down the center.

There are a few reasons why your amp could be cutting out. Any halfway decent amp (I think the Legacy's qualify) has at least two kinds of protection circuitry, which are short circuit and thermal. If your woofer shorts or you accidentally connect the output terminals together, you shouldn't hurt it. Also, if you are running it with too low an impedance or with not enough ventilation, it should shut down before any damage is done as a result of the overheating. However, it typically takes longer than 10-15 seconds to overheat, and a shorting problem is generally realized immediately. One possibility is that you simply have a defective amplifier for your sub amp. Try running your subwoofer off either of the other two amplifiers and see if they do the same thing.

It sounds like you have the voice coils connected properly to let your amp behave fine, so I am even more suspicious of that amp. An amp can also sometime have problems due to undervoltage or overvoltage (at the input terminal), but both are highly improbable, especially since your other two amps are working fine. Your woofer will be more efficient when wired in parallel, no doubt about it, by a significant amount. It may just be that wired in series it doesn't compete with the average sub out there. Have you considered running your sub amp in stereo, with one channel to each voice coil?

Also, the 8 gauge wire is a bit small in your case, but I don't think it's the source of your problems. The wire is really only too small depending on your average listening level. I have 8 gauge wire in my car, all the way to the trunk (about 15'), with 275w RMS available from my amp. Sounds like you could have as much as 500w RMS, so ideally I would think 4 gauge is more appropriate. But, if you and I both listen at the same average level, the current draw will be pretty close. What size fuse do you have at your battery?

I'm also curious how you split the wire. If you didn't use a good distribution block, it's possible that is a source of your issues.


Aaron Gilbert


posted by 205.215.216...


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!