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it was a clumsy system
Posted by derf (more from derf) on Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:51:10
In Reply to: What's the Deal with TCS?, ToddF, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:38:20
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plauged by reliability issues. There are/were 3 separate ECU's involved, (each one potentially problematic) unfortunately of Bosch mfg, this being part of the problem as well IMO.
Even the basic premise was silly, traction control through applying the brakes!? That's just Lame. Cleverer setups cut engine power as required. Easy answer is avoid the rascals, IMO simply not worth the Aggro to own one willingly.
Fly by wire can be a decent invisible setup, when done with care and precision. Yamaha R1 and R6 motorcycles use such. Having a 'competent' ECU betwixt the engine power (180 hp) and rider's brain can save one's life while applying power smoothly and seamlessly, regardless of what fool inputs are given.
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Posts in this Thread:
- What's the Deal with TCS?, ToddF, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:38:20
- Don't have and don't want it, not in a Saab anyway, Marvin Stockman, Fri, 5 Feb 2010 16:02:58
- Allow me to chime in, David Ingram, Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:10:19
- Thank David..., PGAero
, Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:06:37 - Re: Allow me to chime in, ToddF, Fri, 5 Feb 2010 13:57:13
- Re: Agree, good post n/a, BobS, Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:18:19
- Re: What's the Deal with TCS?, JimO, Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:38:11
- Re: What's the Deal with TCS?, T. Christopher, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:54:21
- it was a clumsy system, derf, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:51:10 <-- Viewing This Message
- Yes, it was a clumsy system, but..., PGAero
, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:42:27- but..., derf, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:13:04
- Well, not the ONLY one derf. Mine has been trouble, RayV, Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:25:45
- Good.., derf, Sat, 6 Feb 2010 09:11:27
- And..., PGAero
, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:41:35 - A couple of questions..., PGAero
, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:36:49 - It's not the ECU, per se, Bill Homer
, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 17:51:17
- Re: it was a clumsy system, Simon S, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:13:05
- TCS in the 9000, bmacb
, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 11:35:07 - Re: What's the Deal with TCS?, Simon S, Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:48:48
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