C'mon guys, who's kidding who here? I've spoken with Saab senior executives several times, they know perfectly well the car is outdated. What do you expect, it's a tiny company still getting used to GM management.

C&D is the best auto magazine in the country. Whoever it was that said you have to read the european press, ever picked up a copy of Car? They're not exactly thrilled with the car either. At all.

We all know this, yet here we are pretending that C&D has some crazy anti-Saab bias or some inscrutible flaw in their testing regime that results in the 9-3 constantly ranking at or near dead last. Just whistling in the dark, man. I like my 9-3 too (when it's not falling apart), but I also know that it's not nearly as well engineered as most of the competition.

Does it have qualities I like, that the other brands don't? Yes. I like that it's unusual, I like the hatch, I love how it looks, I love the seats. But it's still a benchwarmer, at least for now.

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• New Car & Driver, John N., Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:41:33
  • SOMEONE PLEASE WRITE A LETTER TO C&D! n/m, Adrian, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:09:53
  • the best part about their article..., Brian G., Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:01:19
    • Inconsistancy has been a C/D hallmark!, RCC, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:44:36
      • C/D numbers are accurate, adjusted for conditions. n/m, Jay Besoin, Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:43:44
      • Their worst inconsistancy by far, Roger (NAWC), Fri, 11 Jan 2002 08:18:51
  • I think..., Bob M, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:27:27
  • CD & "Badge engineering" hypocrisy, pursang, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:02:39
    • Automobile doesn't even DO their own testing!!!! n/m, Jay Besoin, Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:41:28
  • Dropped my subscription, SQLSAAB, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:40:25
  • C&D is swill, Hood, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:52:31
    • Do anything but admit the Saab is outdated, Jay Besoin, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:43:20 <-- Viewing This Message
      • I have to agree, Jacob, Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:13:01
      • I keep reading about "less well engineered", but>, StanleyB, Fri, 11 Jan 2002 04:11:53
        • Good question...the answer..., Jay Besoin, Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:37:04
        • I think..., Bob M, Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:15:44
          • The rear suspension is fine..., brian@saabcenter.com, Fri, 11 Jan 2002 17:19:58
            • looks the same to me, nickR, Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:36:42
              • If you were to look at both.., brian@saabcenter.com, Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:45:22
                • Rear suspension still bites, Jay Besoin, Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:39:55
                  • *lol* n/,m, brian@saabcenter.com, Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:46:47
      • WELL SAID!! n/m, Allen, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:57:11
  • YUCK!!! Brock Yates does it again, Ian Glenday , Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:43:16
  • The "quirkiness" factor ..., Philip, Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:58:02

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