Saab people really don't get into the navigation thing, I think it's a cultural concept...I had a friend of mine (big Saab person) say about navigation "Saab owners are smart enough to know where they're going."

I'm convinced that you will see navigation in every (luxury) car within 5 years.

a.) Navigation is cool. I know that sounds fairly lame, but it is cool. Being able to press a button to see where your car is in reference to all sorts of roads is really cool. A distraction? Perhaps. Saab people are supposedly not turned on by the gee-whiz factor, but a lot of other people are.

b.) Navigation is accurate. Your Rand Mcnally can't get to street level (and then some)accuracy. The purpose of navigation isn't cross country trips as much as local ones and trips through unfamiliar cities.

c.) Navigation offers interesting on demand features. For instance, you can take a phone number that just called you, enter it in, navigation can do a reverse lookup and then give you the address, plus directing you to the location.

minuses

a.) Navigation takes a lot of room on the dashboard. Car makers are still working on that.
b.) Many implementations of navigation simply suck interface wise. (The Japanese are better at this however.) The BMW implemention is particularly egregious (interestingly, few 3 series cars have it.)
c.) As part of a.) and b.) navigation often takes some of the other controls (like for HVAC and radio) and puts them together...quite annoying actually, especially if you have to go through multiple menus to do the simplest thing. (See BMW)
d.) It's expensive...though coming down in price, especially for some automakers. The Acura implementation is pretty good, and cheap. In no more than 3 years every Acura (and a good percentage of Accords) is gonna have it.

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• Saab Comments on BMW Board, LAGene, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:22:12
  • a couple of thoughts, saabaru, Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:54:32
  • One BMW poster doesn't like Saab because.... >>, Dinger, Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:47:35
    • Re: One BMW poster doesn't like Saab because.... >>, PaulYVR, Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:23:20
  • $.02, Saana88 , Thu, 18 Sep 2003 19:20:59
    • Way to go, Saana! My old 84 is much the same and, Noel, Sun, 21 Sep 2003 06:48:38
  • Sadly, (and Nav comments), chris74, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:57:16
    • defending navigation, jimbobjoe, Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:21:00 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Navigation is silly because of the egregious cost., Hood, Mon, 22 Sep 2003 07:24:36
        • DDDIIITTTTOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( - ), Saabing in KS, Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:49:30
      • When you need navigation it's nice..., Noel, Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:00:52
    • Re: Sadly, (and Nav comments), 79-900t , Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:19:13
      • Re: Sadly, (and Nav comments), LAGene, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:56:58
    • I agree about nav, phred, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 17:07:08
      • I disagree about NAV, Bob M, Fri, 19 Sep 2003 04:57:14
        • Been there, done that, phred, Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:29:07
      • 20 years from now..., Andy E, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:55:47
  • There are other BMW forums, phred, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:31:13
  • Re: Saab Comments on BMW Board, 79-900t , Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:54:11
  • uggh- yuk, nt moore, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:15:40
    • Nevermind the headgasket..., LAGene, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 16:07:08
    • The animated smiley with the ax is only the beginning, FrozenSaab, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:47:57
  • what I didn't like about the BWM board was..., Saabing in KS, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:12:14
    • Excellent points, I thouroughly agree! n/m, Sean H, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:04:28
  • I think its funny that, Steve88SiS, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:04:23
  • Re: Saab Comments on BMW Board, Sean H, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:03:06
    • Perhaps they need to learn how to drive the car??Long, Aero9k, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 21:34:54
  • I've always thought that those who constantly..., FrozenSaab, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:59:30
    • Re: I've always thought that those who constantly..., LAGene, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:18:50
      • Re: I've always thought that those who constantly..., Slaab , Fri, 19 Sep 2003 05:54:25
        • My parents were similar, only..., LAGene, Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:08:31
        • Kind of like that groucho Marx comment about, RS , Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:00:35
      • Try the bro' or mansiere., FrozenSaab, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:44:26
      • hhhhhhhhhhhhheeehhhhheeeeehhhhhheeeeee!! Too FUNNY (-), Saabing in KS, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 13:09:11
      • HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH, HAHAHAHAHAH, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:53:06
  • Didn't like the BB layout @ BWM--this one is great.(-), Saabing in KS, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:46:04
    • Re: Didn't like the BB layout @ BWM--this one is great.(-), Spiros Trianta, Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:57:10

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