As I noted in a post further up this thread, a lot of this is about changing consumer behavior, and that takes roughly half of forever. It can be done, but it needs to be supported by both public and private sectors. Unfortunately, while there are socially responsible companies, there does not seem to be a socially responsible government to provide some of the needed regulation.

There is a need for people to realize that because there are so many of us, the ways we live have a direct and long-term impact on our future and the lives of our kids and their kids. I believe we have to change the way we live--as a society--in the U.S in particular. Part of it is the kind of cars we drive. Some of it is how we work, how much we travel (for work and play), how much we consume--and how we get what we consume. Geez, one thing leads right into another, which is why this is so hard. What are you willing to give up?

In our house we've always driven 4 cylinder cars that get decent mileage (except for the soon to be departed Exploder). We drive them into the ground, so we consume fewer vehicles. We don't commute or buy a lot of stuff. But we are in the minority.

The problem is that the relative prosperity we all enjoy in the U.S. tends to breed a "some is good, more is better" attitude that ultimately affects how we are able live in the future. More globally, though, this same attitude will expand to China, India and the rest of Asia where prosperity (and consumerism) will be a new thing over the next 20 years or so. And with almost 3 billion people, that gets scary on a planet with limited resources.





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• Ford urges Congress to promote E85, PT, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:55:49
  • OK, I'll throw a wrench into the works...., SaabHubby, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:49:32
  • No e85 here yet..., LesH, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:18:49
    • that Minnedosa odour;-) n/m, steveC, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:52:42
      • Gotta head out to dinner there soon..., LesH, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:18:21
        • Re: Gotta head out to dinner there soon..., steveC, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:23:06
  • Some good posts to this. E85 is just one piece of, Noel, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:39:05
    • Why would heavily taxing fuel not work? >, ChipJ, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 17:36:15
      • Re: Why would heavily taxing fuel not work? >, soneway, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:00:45
        • Re: Why would heavily taxing fuel not work? >, Noel, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:06:00
          • Now wait a minute, Drew in Houston, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:37:07
            • Re: Now wait a minute, soneway, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:46:51
              • Re: Now wait a minute, Drew in Houston, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:29:56
              • Nice job, soneway., Noel, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:09:29
                • Re: Nice job, soneway., Drew in Houston, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:13:52
            • Well, yes, people with big families or some other >, ChipJ, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:54:27
              • Thank goodness this isn't Europe, Drew in Houston, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:26:49
                • If we want to reduce our dependence on foreign oil >, ChipJ, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:31:13
                • Re: Thank goodness this isn't Europe, soneway, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:29:50
                • Emissions are only part of the story..., Noel, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:02:12
  • the engineer in me says this is a dumb idea >, ChipJq, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:19:35
    • Re: the engineer in me says this is a dumb idea >, dboone, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 07:43:12
      • I would think if E85, PT, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:50:10
        • Re: I would think if E85, TML , Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:27:57
          • I have a suspicion that the people who "calculated", AdamB , Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:05:33
          • Re: I would think if E85, dboone, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:49:52
          • Re: The price of sugar, BobS, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 10:14:35
          • There's no renewable replacement for oil, BrianG, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:49:33
            • Re: There's no renewable replacement for oil, AdamB , Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:07:39
              • No, the production capacity cannot exist, BrianG, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:58:44
                • Re: No, the production capacity cannot exist, AdamB , Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:57:09
            • Re: There's no renewable replacement for oil, soneway, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 19:47:42
              • Brilliant post! I would add this >, ChipJ, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:05:30
              • Great post, soneway!, Noel, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 06:40:37 <-- Viewing This Message
              • Re: There's no renewable replacement for oil, soneway, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:06:26
        • Re: I would think if E85, Chad, Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:12:14

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