In Reply to: The unions bankrupted GM..., Mike Lynch [Profile/Gallery] , Sat, 30 May 2009 13:30:09

do what?

What decisions have any non-exempt, hourly wage employees made that caused this outcome? Joining a union, and paying dues to that organization to represent the blue collar workers in labor talks?

30 years of crappy car designs, choosing substandard safety guidance and inferior grade finish materials for their product lines? I know they didnt decide to spend close to hundreds of millions of dollars per year on salary, bonuses, and perks to executives! http://www.companypay.com/executive/compensation/general-motors-corp.asp?yr=2008

Not stepping up to the plate to say to American consumers "we are sorry for producing this garbage and want to work together to do better?"

Not coming up with an industrywide "refurbish-recycle" plan for trade-ins & used/leased cars which preserves the initial content investment and produces back-end value for the company and the customers?

How many thousands of intelligent blue collar workers with thoughtful ideas about how to make GM more profitable, efficient, and stronger have been walked out the door in the past two decades?

How many younger white collar workers couldnt break through the old white male ranks who just want the next version of their dream 1965 Corvette back on the streets?

The American consumerist mindset is what it is, so to me its purely disingenuous to blame the union contracts and therefore the employees for this situation.


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http://www.companypay.com/executive/compensation/general-motors-corp.asp?yr=2008

• GM bankruptcy = "depression"?, rob 94 aero, Fri, 29 May 2009 17:23:22
  • GM no longer employes enough people to have this effect, MI-Roger , Sat, 30 May 2009 13:33:39
  • The unions bankrupted GM..., Mike Lynch , Sat, 30 May 2009 13:30:09
    • hmm it really wasn't just the Unions, ryan , Sun, 31 May 2009 15:19:24
      • What was the point...??, PGAero , Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:21:04
    • The unions bankrupted GM... with management help, Noel, Sun, 31 May 2009 06:36:26
      • Yep, Jim, Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:30:03
    • Re: The unions bankrupt many places they dominate., BobS, Sat, 30 May 2009 23:01:20
      • Yes, it has gotten to that point..., UpstateNY Bill, Sun, 31 May 2009 08:12:22
    • Re: The unions bankrupted GM..., KevinM, Sat, 30 May 2009 19:03:38
    • Re: The unions bankrupted GM..., mikef, Sat, 30 May 2009 18:02:42
    • do what? (i do not intend this as a flame), repoSAAB, Sat, 30 May 2009 14:42:12 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Consequences of Overpaying One Input Factor, Jim, Sat, 30 May 2009 15:15:28
    • It wasn't the workers or the unions who've made, No Snaab, Sat, 30 May 2009 14:12:13
      • Re: It wasn't the workers or the unions who've made, Brian Griffin, Sat, 6 Jun 2009 05:47:31
      • High Wages Means Large Cars, Jim, Sat, 30 May 2009 15:23:01
        • Re: High Wages Means Large Cars, DER, Sun, 31 May 2009 19:43:57
          • Re: High Wages Means Large Cars, Jim, Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:29:32
            • Most carmakers do this but there's a difference, Noel, Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:23:58
  • Graph of Unemployment by County - USDA Stats, andym, Sat, 30 May 2009 04:11:08
  • You ought to live in Michigan, TG, Sat, 30 May 2009 03:35:03
    • I grew up in Detroit, and "The Great Lakes State" is, Lawrence, Sat, 30 May 2009 10:59:56
  • Actually, "throwing in the towel", is, for all intents, Lawrence, Fri, 29 May 2009 18:53:11
    • Huh?, PGAero , Sat, 30 May 2009 12:36:45
  • Re: GM bankruptcy = "depression"?, Simon S, Fri, 29 May 2009 18:04:19
    • Re: GM bankruptcy = "depression"?, np , Sun, 31 May 2009 10:58:42
      • Agreed. Koenigsegg would be awesome. nm, Simon S, Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:53:33
    • Re: GM bankruptcy = Chinese Cars??, Dave B 89 900s Auto, Sat, 30 May 2009 07:16:41

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