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Re: considerable irony
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Posted by Snowmobile [Email] (#686) [Profile/Gallery] (more from Snowmobile) on Wed, 3 Jan 2018 06:36:49 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: considerable irony, AeroEd [Profile/Gallery] , Tue, 2 Jan 2018 18:39:15
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I'm not sure what is ironic in my post? As I said, it could have been the driver or tires. Tires make a big difference. All my cars have top-end snow tires on them for almost 6 months of the year and none of them have AWD. I do "get" driving in snow. That said, different cars introduce factors like different weight distribution, minimum tire width, aspect ratio limitations, etc which are pretty hard to change and do affect how the car handles in snow. Eg, it does not seem to matter what snow tires I put on the 9-5's, or the fact that they have ESP/TCS - both c900's I own outperform both 9-5s in every aspect on snow (acceleration, cornering, braking, recovery, etc). On dry pavement, the opposite is mostly true.

So my question was if anyone has had some real world driving experience in a Tesla in winter. I think that is fairly valid to ask. I think Justin's response probably explains what I saw pretty well - if it is easy to apply too much throttle and especially if so-so tires were on it, I can see how it could get squirrely fast. I wasn't suggesting that AWD is a panacea (sure doesn't help you stop), but maybe wondering if it might be a desirable feature in winter climates for this particular car model *if* the car I saw had winter tires and a relatively competent driver... this was a slowly moving 2 lane each way road in a busy commercial district, and the driver was fishtailing big time (like +/- 30 degrees) accelerating slowly to about 20mph. My guess is the guy had all seasons and too much throttle, but there are very few Teslas around here so I had not noticed this before and was curious if this was common. FWIW, following in a 9-5 wagon with brand new Hakka R2's 205/55R16, I found the road greasy, but easy to navigate at those speeds.

I'm definitely interested in the Model S as a potential SAAB successor sometime in the future... but winter behaviour is a big deal for me especially where we can't just throw on a set of studded hakkas anymore... I miss the days of hooning around in c900's on narrow studded tires on sheets of ice, accelerating quickly up steep hills on glare ice almost as if the road was dry, etc - studs are banned here now! What a difference though...

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