[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 92X | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 97X | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Performance | Detail | Clubs & SOC | Other Cars | Books Movies & Music | Chat | FAQs | Gifts | Photos | Classifieds | Polls | Raffle | Sponsors]

General Bulletin Board
Search:

[Main General Bulletin Board | Post Followup | FAQ ] [ Prev by Date ] Member Login / Signup [Most Recently Edited Saabnet.com Photo Galleries]
Re: Just wait until he gets a speeding ticket... nm
Posted by Anil (more from Anil) on Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:14:48
In Reply to: Just wait until he gets a speeding ticket... nm, Simon S, Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:53:24
Yes totally a pisser!

I certainly agree that I have learned a valuable lesson - do not trust the word of independent dealers like Chadwick.

I have not taken issue with the technical skills of Chadwick or any other of his business pals and colleagues regarding SAAB know how...just his business ethics as a parts vendor.

The ethical standards and persepctives Chadwick considers perfectly acceptable are obviously also shared by his circle of supporters. I had little expectation that there would be any other ouctcome. Yet I felt compelled to provide my story.

Obviously most have a different perspective, standard, and measure of good business ethics. Its not simply the money, although money precipitated the discussion, it is indeed the principle.

It reminds me of the simple ethical question once presented to a class: Why do we stop at a red light... and not go through it? Because we are afraid we may get caught/not get away with crossing it? Harm may come to us if there is an accident? Or do we stop because it is the right thing to do? Laws legal, or laws ethical...how we view them is an individual matter.

I shudder to think of the answers that might be posted regarding this one as well!

Basically, if you can get away with something...do it! If you can decieve, call it a fair deal, and say it is the consumers foolishness or problem, then move on and forget about it? If it serves me, regardless of the means, it is justified? Sour grapes if one discovers that they were decieved?

It is absolutely amazing how broad the support for deception has been here. Say whatever, twist the truth, mislead to the extent one can, and close 'the deal'.

I had to laugh when I read terms like 'victim mentality' or 'a deal was agreed upon', etc. When a deal is made upon inaccurate information then it is quite obviously not the intended deal! Most people consumate 'a deal' in good faith.

If consumers find a deal to have been consumated in bad faith...(being misled is bad faith), most would question it and attempt to correct it. Most responsible businesses would do the same if they find an order of goods to have been unfairly priced. They would certainly complain, and if not rectified, they would not do business with that particular vendor again. They would also make it known that this entity is not a good place to do business.

There is clearly broad support for Chadwick's business conduct and ethics. Interesting commentary of his supporters.

My short conversation with Chadwick the day after 'the deal'... was to make it known that this was not the intent of our agreement. The agreement was based upon his word that the part was difficult to find at the time. False as of that conversation. Since he refused to address my complaint, the point thereafter was to make sure others do not fall prey to the same circumstances as I had. There is nothing unreasonable about this course of action.

Bottom line: future clients should be aware of 'helpful' folks like this and predicate a decision to make a deal upon the 'real' experiences of those before. Comments are reflective of a crossection of clients providing a record of experience - the good and the not so good. There are obviously many of you who have wonderful experiences in dealing with him. I have simply shared mine.

I can say with certainly, that, had I read a comment of an experience such as mine, prior to doing business with Chadwick, I certainly would have moved on and would not have made 'the deal'.

I chalk one up for a $100 lesson. Consumer beware!

Discussion closed.

posted by 98.66.25...
Posts in this Thread:
Members can receive an alert when someone posts in this thread.
Post a Followup

Name:
E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Send me email when someone posts in this thread: (available to Members)

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads or live auctions may be here - use the classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Personal attacks, insults, or flaming are not allowed.
Posting any of this will result in an immediate loss of posting privileges on this site.
Site Members do not see any warning (red) text.

Message:

Optional Link URL: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
To promote your own Saab site here, you must have a link back to The Saab Network.
Link Title:
Optional Image URL: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)


The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2012 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no Spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Donations
Your address is: 107.20.129.212 - Using CCBot/2.0 - Logged.
Site Members do not see red text instructions, green links, and bottom of the page banners.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!