Joe98, you made your point in a well thought out way. Trobinson9kt, please get your facts from creditable sources - Your statements are prepostorous.

Julia, one couldn't have said it better with
"What we have is an overindulgent, gluttonous, very spoiled country full of people who are never satisfied because they simply can never get enough. Bottom line? The fulfillment they seek will never be found outside themselves. It's a futile quest, and one which will continue to fuel our current rules of supply and demand in this country for as long as we raise spoiled, socially unconscious children. Time to start being responsible on a global scale."

By the way, I need two cars (one for my wife). Currently, we own a '98 Camry which is very monotonous but dependable and a '93 9KT which has also been very reliable and way more fun over the Camry. Ideally, I would have liked a newer Honda Civic with 5-spd manual over the Camry since it would be a very GREEN car for day to day driving (great mpg and ULEV status). I would consider the Hybrid Civic or Prius too but I am not yet convinced of their longterm reliability. Being GREEN also means using things to their fullest lifetime - which keeps our landfills from filling up and polluting. Just today, I was reading on the CNN website that Americans will discard MILLIONS of cellphones each year for new ones - These things supposedly have all kinds of polluting metals in them.

That brings me to another point. I have seen adds for SUVs claiming LEV status certified by the NHTSA; I do not think most consumers are aware that a ULEV truck (SUVs are classified as trucks) is MUCH more polluting than a ULEV car simply because there are different standards set by the govt for each class.

I apologize for the ranting and the long post. Happy saabing !


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• SUVs - way overrated !!, Bee, Wed, 8 May 2002 12:17:46
  • Ari's comment on SUVs..., Aerogant, Thu, 9 May 2002 15:06:18
  • March 17th is n'tl "Ride your bike to work" day, sturz, Thu, 9 May 2002 13:07:52
  • Re: SUVs - way overrated !!, Don , Thu, 9 May 2002 07:03:53
  • I had a Ford Explorer last year, Robert Kaplan, Wed, 8 May 2002 17:03:52
    • I too have had a hankering for a Range Rover, No Snaab, Wed, 8 May 2002 21:25:05
      • RR = HOG, sturz, Thu, 9 May 2002 13:19:34
      • Re: I too have had a hankering for a Range Rover, Brian 92 CDt, Wed, 8 May 2002 23:49:51
        • The Best 4x4xFar, BillR, Thu, 9 May 2002 11:05:05
  • As usual, there's always the other side of the coin..., Joe98, Wed, 8 May 2002 15:54:47
    • Re: As usual, there's always the other side of the coin..., Jerry Sanders, Wed, 8 May 2002 18:01:39
    • Borrowed a Suburban a few years ago in Vermont >, Bill Davies, Wed, 8 May 2002 17:37:51
  • Everytime I see an SUV..., Julia, Wed, 8 May 2002 13:42:10
    • EASY NOW....and if you had 4 boys..., Paul Davis, Thu, 9 May 2002 12:05:42
    • YES!!!, z, Wed, 8 May 2002 16:50:18
  • Re: SUVs - way overrated !!, BobS, Wed, 8 May 2002 13:37:15
    • Definitely!, BillR, Wed, 8 May 2002 16:12:19
      • you forgot one..., sturz, Thu, 9 May 2002 13:03:35
      • Except that most SUVs are built on a ladder frame >>>, Kyle, Wed, 8 May 2002 16:54:34
        • Absolutely, BillR, Wed, 8 May 2002 17:06:42
  • Re: SUVs - way overrated !!, 97SAAB, Wed, 8 May 2002 13:02:39
    • More on Gas Prices - SUV's = Terrorism?, Jeff Malin, Wed, 8 May 2002 14:32:47
      • To JEFF and JOE..., Julia, Wed, 8 May 2002 16:14:04
        • Re: To JEFF and JOE..., Bee, Wed, 8 May 2002 17:44:06 <-- Viewing This Message
          • Re: To JEFF and JOE..., Trobinson9kT, Wed, 8 May 2002 19:36:54
            • Re: To JEFF and JOE..., 97SAAB, Wed, 8 May 2002 19:46:43
              • and Minivans, Bee, Thu, 9 May 2002 11:16:18
      • Re: More on Gas Prices - SUV's = Terrorism?, Trobinson9kT, Wed, 8 May 2002 16:04:54
        • ANWR, Jeff Malin, Wed, 8 May 2002 18:09:55
        • Gotta disagree with this, saabaru, Wed, 8 May 2002 17:09:18
        • Re: More on Gas Prices - SUV's = Terrorism?, Julia, Wed, 8 May 2002 16:20:45
          • Re: More on Gas Prices - SUV's = Terrorism?, JJ2, Wed, 8 May 2002 18:33:34

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