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Re: Korean and domestic discount 20-30% off MSRP.
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Posted by cheaptech [Email] (more from cheaptech) on Sun, 24 Nov 2019 15:05:05 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: Korean and domestic discount 20-30% off MSRP., steve, Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:38:57
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agree with most of your points - the 3 Toyota models I referenced use traditional truck frames and yes are not fuel efficient - esp the Tundra which is simply horrible. They do excel at off road capabilities with high clearance, stiff suspensions and truck underpinnings, Toyota still uses 4 or 5 speed automatics , they do reasonably well on the highway but excel at off road use - while most uniframe competitors do not . Still a fair number of buyers opt for these Toyota models and seldom or never take them off road, few people dispute Toyotas reliability and in the mountain towns I referenced, a lot of owners take them on some very demanding 4 wd roads and the last thing you want is for your vehicle to breakdown way out in the backcountry, hence they are the vehicle of choice. My fishing buddy has a 4Runner with suspension upgrades that give it 9" of ground clearance and it handles rutted, rocky and steep 4wd roads quite well.
Can't comment on the safety record of these models but often when you have a truck frame with airbags they fare pretty well in crashes.
The RAV4 is a gold mine for Toyota - all in all pretty average vehicle but being a Toyota that doesn't matter much to many and they will buy it.
When you look at vehicles that people keep the longest and hold their value - Toyota and Lexus are consistently at the top of the list with some Hondas, Subarus and a few american makes like the Suburban, Silverado F-150 or Ford Expedition. No Buicks please and thank you.
The Chevy Colorado I spent 5 days in - a base model but I was really unimpressed.

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