The auto industry is in turmoil. Saab may very well be eaten up or gone in 5 years. There are still too many players in the industry, development is expensive, cash flow delicate, and investment time lines long.

However, Saab is at the beginning of something interesting. They at least have the chance to recapture the sole of Saab and to create cars that invoke passion. Better to fail at doing something interesting than succeed at common place mediocrity. This new Saab may well fail to get it done but I believe they know what needs to be done. More than one could ever say for GM. Saab needs the full attention and focus that it just can't get as a small part of a large organization such as GM.

Success or failure will probably come down to having the finances for the transition during which Saab is built back up and to forming key partnerships for new platform development. The vision, passion, and commitment part is undoubtedly there and at least gives Saab a shot.

Saturn? Still can't figure that deal out. You might be right b/c it seems to be have sold as a brand not as a manufacturing concern. That one is just one weird deal of a new "car" company.

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• Where do you think Saab will be in 5 years?, Dave L, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:42:15
  • Consumer confidence..., cfishgo, Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:49:48
    • Re: Consumer confidence..., PGAero , Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:56:27
  • in 5 years--Slaying BMWs w/ Viking..., moleman, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:09:12
    • disagree, DE , Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:32:23
      • agree, hopefully sticking with FWD, Aero'ed, Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:01:47
        • Re: agree, hopefully sticking with FWD, ryan , Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:23:10
          • Glad, you're not running things at SAAB n/m, Street, Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:40:00
          • snow, James, Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:14:57
            • but do they really need bigger engines? torque steer?, Aero'ed, Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:00:47
              • If sliding the rear is what you want..., Street, Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:20:26
          • well good luck, DE , Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:48:28
    • Amen to that, and I don't doubt it..., B Millar , Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:18:19
  • Re: Where do you think Saab will be in 5 years?, Cloudship, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:48:44
  • R&D? Eker Design of course, JDP, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:33:33
  • Still selling Saabified Opels., Stan W., Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:11:32
    • Saab will never compete against civic and corolla..., Mark from Toronto, Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:11:01
      • I agree n/m, JohnA , Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:33:55
    • Re: Still selling Saabified Opels., Dave L, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:51:23
      • You mean like Mini Cooper? n/m, EricG, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:47:27
  • Next 5 years is survival mode, Wayne D, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:42:47
    • Re: Next 5 years is survival mode, Aero~1957, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:58:30
      • The new-and-improved K-Car...can't wait! n/m, Clay McNeely , Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:10:54
        • Iacocca is not as fun to say as Koenigsegg! n/m, saabgirlie , Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:14:29
  • Re: Where do you think Saab will be in 5 years?, ursaw, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:21:15
  • Doing fine as a different company, Noel, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:56:22
    • hatchbacks, JohnA , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:05:12
      • Audi may have us beat., B Millar , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:09:05
        • There's room for more than one hatchback, Noel, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:55:06
          • The acid test:, JohnA , Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:37:14
            • Re: The acid test:, B Millar , Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:42:06
              • Not an official concept..., BlaaSaab, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:59:27
                • wouldn't those roof rails be useless, Aero'ed, Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:10:23
              • wife would be happier w/that, no doubt n/m, JohnA , Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:20:56
        • Audi, JohnA , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:29:09
  • new anniversary model, Ken Fisher, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:19:58
  • You guys are smokin wacky weed, willy, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:57:18
    • Re: You guys are smokin wacky weed, Aero~1957, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:56:01
    • GM and Chrysler may not survive 5 years, who knows?, Mark Anderson, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:20:29
    • Re: You guys are smokin wacky weed, ursaw, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:15:25 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Re: You guys are smokin wacky weed, ursaw, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:41:43
    • I'll take you up on that bet..., Scott Paterson , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:40:40
      • I'm next in line behind Scott on that., Railhead , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:23:20
        • Me too, I'll take some of that..., Street, Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:57:32
    • Re: You guys are smokin wacky weed, B Millar , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:06:40
  • Re: Where do you think Saab will be in 5 years?, Simon S, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:04:20
    • Re: Where do you think Saab will be in 5 years?, Red93SEInBrklyn, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:03:36
    • Re: Where do you think Saab will be in 5 years?, saabsince 93b , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:54:28
      • Re: Where do you think Saab will be in 5 years?, JohnA , Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:12:07
        • BTW, Saab's airplane heritage fits very well..., JDP, Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:36:36

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