...they removed the points penalty. Gong to fight a summons also means "lets make a deal."

"Your Honor, before we start this and take up about an hour of the court's time, I was wondering if you would accept a plea of either not guilty with a donation to charity or guilty to a lesser charge, half the value of the summons, and no points. If not, I believe I can win this case with the data I have collected. By accepting this arrangement, perhaps we can save the court time. I know I certainly also would like to put this behind me even if it costs me some money, but it is just that I know that I am in the right and as such it just bothers me to accept points on an issue where I believe I can mount a strong and logical defense."

The judge didn't accept this once, I took an hour of her time, and she found me guilty but reduced the sentence by one half and removed the points. The very next time she saw me, she elicited from me an agreement to pay 1/4 the fine for a dismissed charge, and with a wry look on her face she made an off the record comment that she would be able to go home on time.

You need to do your homework. You need to make them work for their money. You need to be creative. You need to be polite and have patience. You need to stick to your guns.

• Got a BS speeding ticket in Mass..., Jeff Cunningham, Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:19:25
  • if you do end up going to court, try to find...., baggsly , Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:31:45
  • Sorry for my busted comments, Jeff B, Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:56:11
    • Last summons I fought/lost money and points reduced..., Chaz, Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:07:22 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Oops Last summons I fought/saved money&pnts reduced..., Chaz, Sat, 29 Oct 2005 01:40:27
    • I hear ya..., Jeff Cunningham, Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:03:01
      • $230 for 18 over! Yikes, I'll be MUCH more careful, Jeff B, Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:28:19
        • 20 over?, thor-in-2004, Fri, 28 Oct 2005 12:32:49
          • Yes, 20 over, aka reckless driving where I live, Jeff B, Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:12:47
  • jeff: sorry about that. try nationalmotorists.org for, mdj, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:31:55
  • Sometimes I wonder.., yaofeng, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:31:22
  • Re: Got a BS speeding ticket in Mass..., Paul S., Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:14:50
  • Busted..., Jeff B, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:37:53
    • 40+1 to 2 MPH, Jeff Cunningham, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 09:30:09
      • Re: 40+1 to 2 MPH, Randy Thatcher , Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:11:32
      • If the on ramp has two fixed points 170 feet apart, Jeff B, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:52:47
        • Re: If the on ramp has two fixed points 170 feet apart, TML , Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:25:50
          • You gentlemen forget paralax error..., Chaz, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:50:18
            • good points! n/m, Bob M, Fri, 28 Oct 2005 07:27:29
            • I mentioned that... n/m, TML , Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:44:30
        • but if clocked means..., Bob M, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:39:13
    • v=d/s is clearer as speed=distance/time, Jeff B, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:40:50
  • Re: Got a BS speeding ticket in Mass..., Ben S, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:50:00
  • Mass is bloody ridiculous with tickets... (rant), AlexP, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:20:33
  • Unfortunately usually the cops win, NickR, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:17:46
  • Jeff, you need to use the process of discovery..., Chaz, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:10:32
  • Go to the library and check the statute..., Noel, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 03:48:01
  • Re: Got a BS speeding ticket in Mass..., matt 94 aero, Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:30:21
    • Re: Got a BS speeding ticket in Mass..., Drew in Houston, Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:51:12
      • uh, they often lie..., mdj, Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:38:25

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