It could be that cooling or warming could both happen just in different places. The term "global warming" is too generic, IMHO, and is overplayed in many cases. What really seems to be occurring is fairly broad climate change, caused by multiple factors.

I just have a layman's knowledge of this, but some friends who are real geophysists have helped me understand some of it a lot better. What makes it hard to predict is that the rates of change in sea levels, ocean salinity, size of rain forests, and ground water supplies are happening faster than historic data show, which makes modeling more complicated.

Then you look at local weather. Winter here in the northeast has been much harder than usual. Colder and snowier. Is that "climate change?" Who knows? But a symptom of climate change is less stable and more violent weather. Recently there were tornadoes in Tennessee, not something you expect in mid-winter.

It may take a century for a lot of this to shake out, but I think we're in for some rough times as a growing population puts more stress on a planet that is changing. And whether that change is human caused, natural or both, we're going to have to deal with it one way or another.

What bugs me is that the people who say climate change is a crock have nothing but opinion and spotty info to back it up. Some point to some science that supports a narrow claim but ignore the larger range of data that show that things are happening.

• "Talk About a Crock"…what Bob says about what Bob said, JohnA , Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:05:50
  • I agree with him - global warning is a crock, dcjayhawk, Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:53:54
    • Re: I agree with him - global warning is a crock, ursaw, Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:41:01
    • Re: I agree with him - global warning is a crock, SeattleSaab , Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:03:24
    • I DISAGREE!, Mike in Anchorage, Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:28:15
      • Who is "we"?, AeroBaron, Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:15:38
    • I disagree..., Caarma , Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:56:02
    • a Pentagon scenario, JohnA , Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:14:46
    • Re: I agree with him - global warning is a crock, HansB, Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:40:23
      • It's cyclical, dcjayhawk, Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:59:57
        • You need to look a little further back than 30 yrs..., Noel, Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:00:51
          • Hard science v/s computer modeling..., dSPG89, Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:51:33
            • Sure, there can be bad computer models, Noel, Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:24:25
              • Re: Well said Noel, BobS, Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:10:50
                • Re: Well said Noel, AdamB , Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:06:14
                • Thanks, Bob. As to your question,, Noel, Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:28:55 <-- Viewing This Message
                  • Agree and more..., Caarma , Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:45:28
                    • Re: Agree and more..., Noel, Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:46:52
                      • Well said! Once the Chinese, Mitch, Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:02:04
                        • Or perhaps the "Sky is warming" bunch..., dSPG89, Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:08:16
                          • More like "Chicken Little" and The Sky is Falling bunch, UpstateNY Bill, Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:00:16
                            • Re: More like "Chicken Little" and The Sky is Falling bunch, Quahog, Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:08:03
                        • Mitch, you see the bigger issue, Noel, Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:16:26
                      • Well said Noel and Atul, AdamB , Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:17:47
                        • Cell A2, AeroBaron, Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:24:47
            • It's all Greek to me, JohnA , Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:04:00
        • Wiki "Inter-glacial" or "Maunder Minimum"..., dSPG89, Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:51:17
        • Happening on Mars, Love My Saab, Sun, 24 Feb 2008 06:10:05
          • Re: Happening on Mars, HansB, Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:09:56

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